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re: 2023 March For Life (Edit: Pics Added!)
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:40 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:40 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Just War Theory.
I have some idea. I feel confident saying your response isn't proportional to actually believing babies are being murdered.
quote:I was discussing something with someone else. That "something" we were discussing was the effects of abortion on poverty and whether or not one is truly being compassionate to ban abortion while not doing anything to help the parent(s) after birth.
Were discussing abortion, which includes zygotes.
The argument was that it's more compassionate to kill children in the womb than to allow them and their mothers to live in poverty. I applied that same reasoning to the homeless, sick, and other groups that suffer in this life.
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Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:45 am to FooManChoo
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Just War Theory.
Are you at war?
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I was discussing something with someone else.
Good for you. It's a discussion board.
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That "something" we were discussing was the effects of abortion on poverty and whether or not one is truly being compassionate to ban abortion while not doing anything to help the parent(s) after birth.
Which leads back to exactly where I took it.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 3:54 am to Liberator
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They’re just seeds.
Good point.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:12 am to DavidTheGnome
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ok so before Russia invaded Ukraine you were all for tax dollars going to women who needed help, not calling them welfare queens etc?
You don’t think there’s a difference between women needing help & welfare queens?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:21 am to NPComb
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You don’t think there’s a difference between women needing help & welfare queens?
I would bet the majority do not find a difference when talking abortion or government spending. They find it convenient to keep them inclusive.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 4:22 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:08 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:We’ve reached the point in the “discussion” where you jump the shark and stop any attempt at good-faith conversation, so I’m done with you for now.
DisplacedBuckeye
Until next time…
Posted on 1/22/23 at 8:40 am to FooManChoo
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I’m done
Hey, look. Foo ran out of points again.
See you next time.
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I don’t think you can complain about a lack of compassion when you support the murdering of innocent children.
"I was just talking about poor kids after they're born."
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 8:43 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Are you at war?
We're all at war.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:50 am to BengalOnTheBay
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We're all at war.
But not real war.
Fake war, like the war on Target or Christmas.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 9:58 am to BengalOnTheBay
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If human life is not inherently valuable, then the entirety of our legal system has no foundation. Religiously or by any other measure, I do not see how someone cannot view human life as inherently valuable. And if it is, it deserves legal protection at the point of creation (i.e. conception).
There are plenty of reasons to believe abortion is a net negative for society apart from religion/inherent value.
Cars have no inherent moral value but it’s very easy to explain why it would be bad for society if it were legal to just take a sledgehammer to random vehicles.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:02 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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But not real war.
I suppose that's true if you do not have a soul.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:06 am to BengalOnTheBay
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I suppose that's true if you do not have a soul.
I'm starting to wonder if you could be beejon.
Tell me, what's your position on engaging in sword fights with demons?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:08 am to FooManChoo
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not doing anything to help the parent(s) after birth
This is a bald faced lie. Bad Orange Man doubled the child tax credit and made it refundable for the first time.
ETA: I think you agree with me - you were quoting, nor makjng, the argument.
This post was edited on 1/22/23 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:10 am to DavidTheGnome
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DavidTheGnome
So you support genocide as a budget tool?
And I bet your pedophile arse loves you some “climate change regulation “.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:12 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Bad Orange Man doubled the child tax credit and made it refundable for the first time.
Not to mention the massive economic expansion that improved the lives of millions of Americans... the government will never be able to "solve" issues of family planning or poverty, but they can make the country more conducive for individuals to make the proper choices and be responsible on their own volition.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 10:35 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Bad Orange Man doubled the child tax credit and made it refundable for the first time.
Do you think that was a good thing, or are you just pointing it out?
Posted on 1/22/23 at 11:35 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Do you think that was a good thing, or are you just pointing it out?
Both.
It's literally a form of UBI for children.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 12:38 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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It's literally a form of UBI for children.
Well, for the parent. So long as they pump out kids they can't afford.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 2:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Pragmatism only looks at issues through the lens of utility, and utility (apart from being an arbitrary standard for morality and ethics) can be used to justify all sorts of barbarism. In fact, some in this thread have used this to justify abortion.
There are plenty of reasons to believe abortion is a net negative for society apart from religion/inherent value.
Posted on 1/22/23 at 4:05 pm to DavidTheGnome
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A fetus isn't a child though. It's a fetus.
A woman who is pregnant is described as being "with child". Game, set, match
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