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re: 2014 May = warmest on record.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:28 am to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:28 am to SpidermanTUba
More ice in the oceans than ever before you brainwashed, ignorant azz0.
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:28 am to Y.A. Tittle
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So, what was the global temperature for the month of May in 1327 and how does it compare to that for the month of May in 2014?
How the frick would I know? I think it was a bit warmer than it was a century or two before, but that's about it. We can at least get trends here.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:30 am to OMLandshark
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We can at least get trends here.
yes we can. these "trends" are called cycles...and they've been happening for a very long time.
but the term "climate cycles" doesn't scare the shite out of people and make Al Gore a millionaire
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:30 am to OMLandshark
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There's nothing the US can do about it. Our emissions are a drop in the bucket worldwide. China is the real problem if co2 is the problem. Until they do anything, co2 levels will continue to rise That and India, I sadly agree, but we can at least try to help out the problem somewhat.
I love this argument. Since when does the US NOT take the lead in the world, and wait on a country like China????
frick it i say. Lets let China do everything first!
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:31 am to OMLandshark
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We can at least get trends here.
Seems like a not imprudent thing to do. I'm not sure that throwing out the figure for any given single month tells anyone anything, though, huh?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:31 am to Lg
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So, when the earth was formed was the temperature very hot or very cold? If it was very hot, wouldn't it be in a cooling phase?
It's completely irrelevant, since there was no life to interfere with it. It was rapid fluctuation, with the numbers of comets, asteroids, even one the size of Mars constantly striking the Earth, and there was a limited/no atmosphere to keep the heat in long term.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:32 am to SpidermanTUba
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So all the fossil evidence collected before computers is no good now.
But you would admit that comparing fossil records to living, breathing examples of animals is not exactly an apples-to-oranges comparison, correct?
We have to make assumptions about other things if we have a fossil and no living example.
Just as all these assumptions they put into models looking forward - which (because they're fudged to produce a desired outcome) have consistently overestimated future warming since all this hysteria began.
You can at least admit this, right (while not endorsing my commentary on fudging)?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:33 am to Choctaw
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is the difference 1 month?
No, it's a more long term trend than that. So even the OP may be off on his point about this being conclusive proof for climate change in the same way people bitch about last winter being so brutal as proof that there isn't climate change.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 10:38 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:34 am to OMLandshark
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I really think we should be aiming more for solar, wind, and nuclear energy, and get off coal and oil as soon as we can.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
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There's a difference between climate and weather.
Great. Tell Spidey that - he started the thread.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:34 am to OMLandshark
quote:Right.
It's completely irrelevant, since there was no life to interfere with it. It was rapid fluctuation, with the numbers of comets, asteroids, even one the size of Mars constantly striking the Earth, and there was a limited/no atmosphere to keep the heat in long term.
So again, had man possessed capability of performing Antarctic ice core analysis 10K yrs ago, or 100K yrs ago or 300K yrs ago, what would his predictions about current global temps have been?
In studying those "layers of ice", what average temperature would our current global climate be expected to exhibit?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:34 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm not sure that throwing out the figure for any given single month tells anyone anything, though,
Couple that with melting glaciers and ice caps around the world, warming/acidification of oceans, etc. There isnt a single shred of evidence that alone will tell you whats going on with a high degree of certainty... but when several changes are being observed concurrently, together they paint a more useful picture.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:36 am to Choctaw
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but the term "climate cycles" doesn't scare the shite out of people and make Al Gore a millionaire
I think the "get rich" is a silly argument against climate change, especially when one of the main causes of it are the oil and coal industries. I'd imagine they have a much more powerful lobbying firm than the wind power industry does.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:36 am to BobBoucher
quote:Like Glacier Bay, or the WAIS?
Couple that with melting glaciers and ice caps around the world
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:37 am to BobBoucher
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Couple that with melting glaciers and ice caps
there was just a report put out that said there is actually more ice at the poles. so we can put off saving the polar bears another day
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:37 am to OMLandshark
these threads become very heated and they try to argue if global warming is real or not. No matter if the world is warming or not, what seems clear to me is that it isn't having a major impact on the world.
Global Warming isn't worse than the billions of starving people in the world.
Global Warming isn't worse than the high rate of crime in this country
Global Warming isn't worse than the high national debt
Global Warming isn't worse than the amount of wars in the world
Global Warming isn't worse than the millions of unborn babies being killed in the womb
Global Warming isn't worse than human trafficking
Global Warming isn't worse than the high infant mortality rates in third world countries.
I can go on
Global Warming isn't worse than the billions of starving people in the world.
Global Warming isn't worse than the high rate of crime in this country
Global Warming isn't worse than the high national debt
Global Warming isn't worse than the amount of wars in the world
Global Warming isn't worse than the millions of unborn babies being killed in the womb
Global Warming isn't worse than human trafficking
Global Warming isn't worse than the high infant mortality rates in third world countries.
I can go on
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:38 am to Ace Midnight
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Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
It's not necessarily, since the planet needs CO2, but it's certainly getting an excess amount of it.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:40 am to NbamaTiger90
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Who was recording the data 300,00 years before the existence of humans?
ice core samples, ocean floor core samples, river bed core samples, drilling core samples from thousands of sites...
from all over the world and more specifically the varying thicknesses, the isotopic ratios of gases, the numbers and kinds of pollens, found within...
but you would know thats how we measure the past if you actually knew anything about the subject you made a flippant comment on.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:41 am to Ace Midnight
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Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
I always thought this was needed for plant growth? I sometimes wonder if people are getting dioxide and monoxide confused.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:41 am to BobBoucher
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Couple that with melting glaciers and ice caps around the world, warming/acidification of oceans, etc. There isnt a single shred of evidence that alone will tell you whats going on with a high degree of certainty... but when several changes are being observed concurrently, together they paint a more useful picture.
is ice disappearing as much as people have claimed in the past? Are polar bears going to be sitting on tiny sheets of ice for weeks because the ice is so small in the arctic? Or was this just fear tactics by the left.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:41 am to SpidermanTUba
it snowed in utah in june though.
science = false.
science = false.
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