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re: 2 people I know We're fired today / yesterday For speaking their minds.

Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:21 am to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53795 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:21 am to
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Are you really this naive?
this. You can be capitalist as frick and still not want police to unjustly brutalize black people
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42123 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:28 am to
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One friend posted a pic of Nancy Pelosi and he said how the hell is this bitch still in office. We say similar things on here. Well that proved he was masochistic, according to the ones offended. Then he said now that the racist mississippi flag is gone we could get rid of the racist ms black caucus. He probably should not have posted that on Facebook.
The other man, private company, said in response to a coworkers black lives matters statement that all lives matter.


So what did their bosses give them as their official reasons for termination? Did they violate a company social media policy? Had they been written up for anything prior to termination? I get companies being allowed to fire anyone at any time, but there has to be some legit way to get back at companies who do this without some groundwork.

The best practice is, is to stay off of fricking facebook and twitter. If you are going to stay on them, follow these rules:

1) don't friend anyone from work.
2) make your account completely private, so not a single outside person can see your posts.
3) don't list anything on your accounts that link to your employer. That is common sense. But people do this without thinking.
4) Don't friend anyone from work.
5) Don't comment on stuff your coworkers post or comment on.
6) Don't have a facebook or Twitter account if you have the twitter fingers of a mentally retarded lap dog. Because you are going to get yourself fired.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42123 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:30 am to
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I hope the Right wakes up before it's game over.


How long are we going to keep saying this before we realize it's never going to happen?

This is the equivalent of a fatherless child saying, is Daddy coming home today? The child is 17.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84559 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:37 am to
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How can this happen when we have freedom of speech??


Because we also have freedom of association.
Posted by Sip_Tyga
Member since Nov 2016
237 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:42 am to
The right accepts the fundamental premises of the left as far as I can tell, which is why they are always backpedaling.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4986 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:52 am to
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Suck it up — for now — and then vote these Marxists into submission. It is what they fear the most.


"Employment at will" is one of the Republicans' fundamental platform policies.

Vote wisely indeed.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154740 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:53 am to
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we also have freedom of association


Bake that cake
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4986 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:54 am to
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You shouldnt lose your job and lively hood of something like that.


Don't they have a union rep to help them?
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 11:00 am
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:54 am to
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Not really, if a company singles a person (or in this case two out) for firing not based on substantive reasons a good employment law attorney can get it won


Lol, good luck with that in a right to work state. And from what the OP infers, that's where they most likely are

In a RTW state they can let you go for any reason they like, just about, and you have nothing you can do about it.. The best thing you can hope for is the make it a RIF, so you'll be able to draw whatever the measly unemployment benefits are in the 'Delta'.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:55 am to
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unjustly brutalize black people


Non starter since this isn't happening nearly as often as people pretend it is.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42123 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:57 am to
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What is in question is whether we want to be a society that okays this shite.


With all the shite that has been brewing over the years, and going on now. I'd like to know when enough is going to be enough. It's obvious that the tale is wagging the dog in this country, and it's a nub tail. Not the full tail.

I hope this doesn't happen, but it might. I am predicting some white a-hole is going to get cancelled, he is going to go postal and pull some huge mass shooting or some kind of Timothy McVeigh thing... Again I hope this doesn't happen, but someone is going to pull something. Then its going to play right into the whole narrative.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:57 am to
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You can be capitalist as frick and still not want police to unjustly brutalize black people


That’s not what Black Lives Matter is about.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:58 am to
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Because we also have freedom of association.


So a company could fire a person for participating in a Black Lives Matter protest?
Posted by Sip_Tyga
Member since Nov 2016
237 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:59 am to
It’s unbelievable to me how quickly and how many people are willing to disregard private property rights when confronted with consequences that have been exacerbated by that very principle. We need to be undoing this subordination of private property rights so we can disassociate completely from these people.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25198 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:59 am to
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Not really, if a company singles a person (or in this case two out) for firing not based on substantive reasons a good employment law attorney can get it won.


Indeed. This case appears to be way past the point of justified firing and deep into the weeds of civil rights and free speech issues.
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7950 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:01 am to
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6) Don't have a facebook or Twitter account


Great advice BUT if you do keep it just don’t use it until November bc if Trump wins it will be glorious to see
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78300 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:01 am to
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Legality of these matters is not in question. What is in question is whether we want to be a society that okays this shite.


Me hats the alternative? Consequence free speech? How far can that go?

I have To keep my employee on after he shows up in an SS uniform so long as it fits the dress code?
Posted by Muleriderhog
NYC
Member since Jan 2015
3116 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:02 am to
If it’s an “at-will” State it’s a perfectly legal firing. That’s why it’s best to just keep your opinions to yourself, especially controversial ones.

Freedom of speech doesn’t apply to the work place and if you attacked Kapernick for kneeling and supported him being blackballed then you are being a hypocrite.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:02 am to
Is that a Slippery Slope argument? It looks like a slippery slope argument.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 11:03 am to
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That’s why it’s best to just keep your opinions to yourself, especially controversial ones.


White lives matter is very controversial.

It’s ok to be white.
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