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2008 - Fulmer, Tubbs and Croom

Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:28 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51253 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:28 pm
Each bit the dust. Tubbs leaving led to an NC. Fulmer leaving led to chaos. Croom leaving has led to.... exactly what they were previously.

UM left Florida and...., well... they suck this year.
Petrio left Arkansas and they haven't recovered yet.

You guys looking to push Miles out, do you really want to roll the dice so badly that you'll risk the health of the whole program? Saban was lightning in a bottle for Bama. Pete Carroll was for USC. Kelly was for Oregon. It can happen, but look at how much more it doesn't happen.

Let it go. We lost. Saban is a better coach. I get it. So, when you find one better than Saban, go after him. Otherwise, I believe Miles will turn this around.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58797 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:31 pm to
Can't wait for the day when posters like TheBob and other rantards of his ilk say "I miss Les Miles"
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:34 pm to
I don't feel like we lost 3 games this year so far bc les miles sucks.
Our defense is terrible is why we aren't that good.

Losing what we lost to the draft has cost us more than we all realized.
Posted by LSUBS88
Member since Sep 2010
929 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:38 pm to
"I don't feel like we lost 3 games this year so far bc les miles sucks."

We lost 3 games this year b/c we called more passing plays than rushing plays in those 3 games. Only 3 like that....so far.....

If Les is calling that.......
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51253 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Losing what we lost to the draft has cost us more than we all realized
Agreed. I hope Jennings gets some time in soon.
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2640 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

I don't feel like we lost 3 games this year so far bc les miles sucks.
Our defense is terrible is why we aren't that good.

Losing what we lost to the draft has cost us more than we all realized.



+1
Posted by Pauldean
Red Stick by way of Syracuse
Member since Oct 2011
2640 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:42 pm to
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LSUBS88


You again….
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
19480 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:44 pm to
Yes!!!!!
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62537 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 7:51 pm to
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We lost 3 games this year b/c we called more passing plays than rushing plays in those 3 games






That's ridiculous.
Posted by PrimetimeDaBoss
Swag City, USA
Member since Oct 2008
7144 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:00 pm to
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Tubbs leaving led to an NC.


No, having a payroll higher than the Miami Marlins led to a NC.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7684 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:03 pm to
great post!

consistency. noun:
1. conformity in the application of something, typically that which is necessary for the sake of logic, accuracy, or fairness.

miles is a man of principles.

if miles goes to mich, do we even win the 07?

I still support miles letting perrilloux and honey badger go. no discipline can destroy a team. lm was protecting his team and his job by sticking to his principles. we could be florida!


Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22915 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:10 pm to
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Saban is a better coach. I get it. So, when you find one better than Saban, go after him.
Saban was not a better coach back when he first came to LSU. But he learned, he grew, he matured. At LSU he showed the sparks of greatness that was in him. Who can forget that 2003 National Championship team? They were well-drilled, well-coached, well-conditioned, well-prepared. And they played like it. They played like an early LSU version of how Alabama plays now. Our bad luck, he went to Miami. But he rebuilt the team and the LSU football culture.

Les Miles came in and made the most of it. But in his 9 years, I believe it is increasingly evident that he has also made a mess of it and has no clue how to return to that well-disciplined, well-coached, well-drilled team he found here back in his first Tiger years.

This is sad because I believe Les Miles is a good man and in his way, loves LSU. But he's not good for us any more. And IMO it's time, before he does irreparable damage to the LSU brand, for him to graciously retire.

Lightning in a bottle? Or a great coach in the making? I believe there is that someone out there for LSU. The key is to find him.
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22118 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:12 pm to
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Who can forget that 2003 National Championship team? They were well-drilled, well-coached, well-conditioned, well-prepared. And they played like it.



Except of course when Zook and his 5 loss band of badasses rolled into Tiger Stadium and beat the frick out of our offense while shutting us out.

Part of the process, you see
This post was edited on 11/10/13 at 8:13 pm
Posted by geauxtigers193
Kenner
Member since Jun 2012
253 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

Saban was not a better coach back when he first came to LSU. But he learned, he grew, he matured. At LSU he showed the sparks of greatness that was in him. Who can forget that 2003 National Championship team? They were well-drilled, well-coached, well-conditioned, well-prepared. And they played like it. They played like an early LSU version of how Alabama plays now. Our bad luck, he went to Miami. But he rebuilt the team and the LSU football culture.

Les Miles came in and made the most of it. But in his 9 years, I believe it is increasingly evident that he has also made a mess of it and has no clue how to return to that well-disciplined, well-coached, well-drilled team he found here back in his first Tiger years.

This is sad because I believe Les Miles is a good man and in his way, loves LSU. But he's not good for us any more. And IMO it's time, before he does irreparable damage to the LSU brand, for him to graciously retire.


I agree that Les needs to leave gracefully like Urban Meyer
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26580 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:14 pm to
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Croom leaving has led to.... exactly what they were previously.


Croom had one wining season in five years and one bowl appearance. Mullen has had three winning seasons and two bowl wins in four years so far.

Florida got rid of Zook (who was winning, but not enough) and got Meyer - two NCs before he left.

Chizik was fired after one losing season two years removed from going 14-0 and getting the crystal. Now Auburn has tripled its win total from last year and is in the hunt with two games left.

The Petrino thing would set any program back a few years.

I agree with you that change doesn't always equal more success. With the amount of juniors Miles keeps losing to the draft, I'm not sure how well he can turn it around if that doesn't change to an extent.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22915 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Part of the process, you see
And your point is...? That, too, was part of the making of that amazing 2003 National Championship Tiger Team.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51253 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

I agree that Les needs to leave gracefully like Urban Meyer
Well that has worked out really well for Florida, right?
Posted by geauxtigers193
Kenner
Member since Jun 2012
253 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Well that has worked out really well for Florida, right?



This year no but they lost one game in his second year. Plus they have a lot of injuries that is why they are 4-5.

What is wrong with bringing in new blood.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58797 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Plus they have a lot of injuries that is why they are 4-5.


The reason they are 4-5 is because Muschamp doesn't know how to recruit offensive talent. They have no playmakers on that offense and being in a talent rich state like Florida that is inexcusable.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
17037 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 8:35 pm to
Sure that'll happen. Missing mediocre coaches can be your job.
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