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What would you like to know about Colt revolvers?
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:55 am
Posted on 5/25/19 at 11:55 am
I drink and know things. Anything you would like to know about those guns?
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Posted on 5/25/19 at 12:24 pm to weagle99
Why do Colts have poor ergonomics such as the cylinder release latch working backwards?
Also why did most experienced shooters like Ed McGivern, Bill Jordan and Elmer Keith prefer Smith and Wesson over Colts?
Also why did most experienced shooters like Ed McGivern, Bill Jordan and Elmer Keith prefer Smith and Wesson over Colts?
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 5/25/19 at 12:41 pm to Buck_Rogers
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Why do Colts have poor ergonomics such as the cylinder release latch working backwards?
The original form of target and police revolver shooting in the early 20th century was single action off hand with the shooters’ thumb resting on the cylinder release latch. Colts were superior to Smiths for this style because resting a thumb on the ‘push forward’ style would cause the Smith’s cylinder to open during shooting.
Being more used to the Colt style myself, the Smith release feels odd to me.
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Also why did most experienced shooters like Ed McGivern, Bill Jordan and Elmer Keith prefer Smith and Wesson over Colts?
People liked what they liked. Colonel Charles Askins was a champion target shooter and used a Colt Shooting Master.
McGivern was shooting double action for most of his work and I imagine liked the feel of the Smith DA better.
Keith was a big bore guy and developed the .44 Magnum out of the .44 Special. Colt never chambered many revolvers for the .44 Special, mainly because it was a Smith round. Keith tried early on to hot rod the .45 Colt instead but was unsuccesful mainly due to thin cylinder walls and swapped over to the .44 Special, of which there were many Smiths to choose from.
I think Jordan just preferred Smiths. I highly recommend his book ‘No Second Place Winner’.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/25/19 at 12:54 pm to weagle99
Why did they almost completely get out of the revolver game leaving themselves the 1911 line by itself? I know a lot of police forces and people were switching over to semi's, but the revolver never completely left and colt had some great ones when they quit.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 1:09 pm to rebelrouser
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Why did they almost completely get out of the revolver game leaving themselves the 1911 line by itself? I know a lot of police forces and people were switching over to semi's, but the revolver never completely left and colt had some great ones when they quit.
Colt’s befuddling management decisions are legendary.
That said, the labor costs to produce the finely fitted V-spring revolvers like the Python, Detective Special, etc. simply rose too high for what the market was willing to pay. Even today some people complain about the cost of the new Cobra / King Cobra revolvers that are much easier to produce than the old V-springs. A Detective Special built like the days of old would probably be double the price of the new guns. How many people are willing to pay $1500 for a 6-shot snubnose .38 special? Not many.
They tried to make an easier to build revolver before with the Mk actions that didn’t require hand fitting (Anaconda, old King Cobra, etc.). With Colt’s labor situation at the time even those rose above in price, and many purists preferred the old V-springs. People buying Colts wanted the V-spring precision at out of the Mk action and it just wasn’t possible.
One thing to remember is that the 9mm pistol / plastic market was getting hot when Colt turned out the lights on double actions. They tried to enter that market but the gun was a failure.
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 5/25/19 at 1:11 pm to weagle99
The plastic colt is legendary!!!
Posted on 5/25/19 at 1:34 pm to Buck_Rogers
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Smith and Wesson
Why did S&W copy most of their designs and then kiss the feet of the Clinton Administration during the AR ban?
ET fix stupid phone keyboard mess ups
This post was edited on 5/25/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 5/25/19 at 1:59 pm to bbvdd
The same reason Colt started developing the smart gun. They were all trying to survive in a bad time for gun makers. I refuse to buy any Smith and Wesson with the internal lock, so I mostly have pre-locks except for a few newer ones that they offer without the lock.
Posted on 5/25/19 at 10:42 pm to weagle99
After Colt introduced the Walker .44, did their competitors try to come up with something similar in that power range? What do you recommend as the maximum powder load for a reproduction Walker .44? TIA!
Posted on 5/26/19 at 12:58 am to weagle99
I'll bite.
What's a cool fact about the guns (design, manufacturing, etc.) that most people don't know about?
What's a cool fact about the guns (design, manufacturing, etc.) that most people don't know about?
Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:39 am to BFIV
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After Colt introduced the Walker .44, did their competitors try to come up with something similar in that power range? What do you recommend as the maximum powder load for a reproduction Walker .44?
I will admit to not being a blackpowder expert, so I can’t say much about the competition.
The Walker is a big gun! The reproductions have better metal than the originals so the loading might be more, but again that is a little out of my range.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:42 am to Bawcephus
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What's a cool fact about the guns (design, manufacturing, etc.) that most people don't know about?
There are many of these but let’s talk about the Python. I have always read the bore of the Python barrel is slightly tapered towards the crown. Also, during manufacture Colt would press a small metal ball of unknown composition down the Python barrel as a final polish. This was called the ‘Magic Ball’ treatment
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 10:56 am
Posted on 5/26/19 at 10:50 am to weagle99
Assuming you have a functioning Uberti and not an Armi San Marco or another wall-hanger: as much as you can put in there without compressing the powder. With round balls, you can get around 50 grains of FFFg 777 powder. With the original Picket bullet, it's closer to 40 I'm told (never shot them in mine).
That much powder spits fire. 40 grains is plenty. Don't have velocity numbers on that, but it feels plenty strong with a lot less unburned powder leaving the barrel.
That much powder spits fire. 40 grains is plenty. Don't have velocity numbers on that, but it feels plenty strong with a lot less unburned powder leaving the barrel.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:33 pm to weagle99
Tell me about my wife’s colt cobra snubnose.
Her dad bought it in the 90s.
Her dad bought it in the 90s.
Posted on 5/26/19 at 3:52 pm to dstone12
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Tell me about my wife’s colt cobra snubnose.
Aluminum frame 6 shot that was built from 1950 - 1981. It was offered in several barrel lengths and calibers but the 2” .38 Special is by far the most common. Early guns had an unshrouded barrel while later ones had a shroud. Early guns also had a long gripframe with later models having a short frame. Blue and nickel finishes.
Part of the D-frame series of guns that also included the Detective Special, Agent, and Diamondback.
Interestingly, a Colt Cobra was used in the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald.
This post was edited on 5/26/19 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 5/27/19 at 6:44 am to weagle99
Will the new revolvers hurt the value of the old ones?
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:24 am to 24nights
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Will the new revolvers hurt the value of the old ones?
With collectors, no. The old guns will continue to be in demand in the collecting community, with high condition or NIB guns remaining desirable.
For the more casual buyer who just wants a Colt revolver? Maybe. For the person who is interested in something to shoot mainly I don’t see why he would pay a premium for an old King Cobra when the new model will probably serve just as well (particularly if Colt releases the new King Cobra with adjustable sights and longer barrel lengths).
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 8:25 am
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:55 am to weagle99
What do you know about Colt Bisley?
My FIL use to have 3 of them. One was an odd ball caliber but I can’t remember exactly what is was. Like .38-40 or something. Very rare.
It was bought in St Louis in the early 1900s if I remember correctly. It had a few notches on its grip.
My FIL use to have 3 of them. One was an odd ball caliber but I can’t remember exactly what is was. Like .38-40 or something. Very rare.
It was bought in St Louis in the early 1900s if I remember correctly. It had a few notches on its grip.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 9:27 am to bbvdd
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What do you know about Colt Bisley?
The Bisley was a first generation Colt Single Action that was made until the early 20th Century. It was designed for target matches in England with a wide hammer and trigger and deeply curved gripframe so that the gun sat low in the hand. Most of the guns were fixed sights, however some rare flattop models with adjustable sights were manufactured.
The .38-40 can be a powerful round when loaded correctly, mimicking the balistics of the .40 S&W.
Many people think the grip frame was the main difference between the Bislel and SAA, however the frames are actually different with the Bisley’s frame being ‘taller’ at the back near the hammer. Some trivia: John Wayne’s Colt that he used in many of his movies was a Bisley with the standard SAA gripframe installed, and on close inspection of the gun you can see the back of the frame sitting up proud of the gripframe owing to the dimensional differences.
Notches on the grip imply number of people killed with the gun per tradition, but there is no way to prove such on a gun without provenance.
This post was edited on 5/27/19 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/27/19 at 8:33 pm to weagle99
Thoughts on the colt auto 25 cal value going up?
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