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What is OB thoughts on 2 new gun purchases
Posted on 1/30/13 at 7:51 am
Posted on 1/30/13 at 7:51 am
Will be buying .35 whelen or .444 or .45-70. Then looking at S&W 642. I cc G23 but looking for another ccw and one that will double to be carried in mrs rattlebucket purse.
Thoughts of the primitive and new ccw revolvers? Any others out there that compare to the S&W?
Tia
Edit: sorry for the 35 whelen debate. I know theres plenty talk of that. More questioning the 642 sw
Thoughts of the primitive and new ccw revolvers? Any others out there that compare to the S&W?
Tia
Edit: sorry for the 35 whelen debate. I know theres plenty talk of that. More questioning the 642 sw
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 7:57 am
Posted on 1/30/13 at 8:03 am to rattlebucket
I love my 642. Can't go wrong with it.
I carry it when clothing selection won't permit carrying the G19.
I carry it when clothing selection won't permit carrying the G19.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 8:04 am to rattlebucket
quote:Don't own either but will buy the .35 when I get around to it. For CCW I'm considering a M&P Shield.
.35 whelen or .444 or .45-70
Posted on 1/30/13 at 8:12 am to 007mag
I like the m&p shield but i specifically want a hammerless revolver in .38+p or .357 if mrs rattlebucket could handle it.
Is there a significant difference in .38+p amd .357 mag?
Is there a significant difference in .38+p amd .357 mag?
Posted on 1/30/13 at 8:18 am to rattlebucket
There is a very significant difference in .38+p and .357
Look at the ruger SP101 bobbed hammer. It's got much more weight than the smiths and thus will be much easier to shoot well.
Another choice is the ruger LCR.
The smith airweights are great guns and are popular for a reason. They are very light and shoot well, but they can be hard for a woman or inexperience man to control with stout loads.
Look at the ruger SP101 bobbed hammer. It's got much more weight than the smiths and thus will be much easier to shoot well.
Another choice is the ruger LCR.
The smith airweights are great guns and are popular for a reason. They are very light and shoot well, but they can be hard for a woman or inexperience man to control with stout loads.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 8:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Thanks for the info.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 9:42 am to rattlebucket
Of you are looking for a 35 Whelen, you might want to call around and find one. I looked at 6 different stores and all they had was 45-70s
Posted on 1/30/13 at 9:52 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
This dude knows his wheel guns!
I second the SP101 vote. With some good 38 +p rounds, it should be effective enough while keeping recoil minimal.
The LCR and Airweight are good choices too but they are not as fun for the recoil sensitive.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:28 am to bapple
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The LCR and Airweight are good choices too but they are not as fun for the recoil sensitive.
I have a ruger LCP and a S&W airweight. really like them. two nice pocket handguns.
Much easier than trying to conceal my G21 and G22 or the S&W model 29 dirty harry .44 magnum
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:50 am to Fat Bastard
My reasons for wanting a pistol like this. My g23 prints too much sometimes.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:58 am to rattlebucket
35 Whelen is the one you want. It is like a 30.06 on steroids. Wait until after "primitive season" passes and you should be able to find them. Stock up on ammo when you can.
The LCR without the laser grip is a great gun - the Hogue grip is very nice, and it has a nice trigger pull. If you are looking for a smaller revolver, you need to handle this one. It shoots +P ammo.
The LCR without the laser grip is a great gun - the Hogue grip is very nice, and it has a nice trigger pull. If you are looking for a smaller revolver, you need to handle this one. It shoots +P ammo.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 12:48 pm to rattlebucket
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Thoughts of the primitive and new ccw revolvers? Any others out there that compare to the S&W?
Keeping in mind that I am both a S&W guy (Garrison Commander has a HUGE 627 snub-nose as her ready gun) AND I recommend Ruger LCR or SP101 to anyone who is initially arming themselves - from purely an ROI - if you keep the 642 a long time, it will be a better "holder of value", but I recommend looking at LCR, then bobbed hammer SP101, THEN 642.
Keeping the retail prices in mind, most people will select the LCR, all other factors being equal. It is just an excellent value for a platform that has some of the same strengths of a polymer pistol, with the reliability of a Ruger/S&W revolver. It is the weapon I am recommending to my daughter, who is right-handed, but shoots left-handed.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 12:50 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I like the sp101 over the smith as well.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 1:50 pm to rattlebucket
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Is there a significant difference in .38+p amd .357 mag?
Certainly in the recoil and flash in a small revolver, there is a significant difference. I just recommend getting the LCR/SP101/J-frame chambered in .357 because you always have the option. Also, if they've engineered it for .357, you're very unlikely to have to be worried about a hot .38 +P load. If weight becomes the overriding concern, something like a 442 becomes the clear choice and you just accept that you're carrying standard pressure .38 special rounds.
Again, my experience is relatively unusual. My garrison commander, Mrs. Ace Midnight, prefers large framed revolvers - she has a 686 (either the "Border Patrol" or "US Customs" model - I just don't recall) that her father is in possession of currently, and her ready gun is a 8-shot 627.
In larger framed revolvers, .357 is fairly manageable, even with shorter barrel lengths. In J-frames or small, light revolvers like the LCR or SP101, you will have to experiment with light .357 or .38 +P loads to find what meets your stopping power and recoil requirements.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:09 pm to Ace Midnight
Good info. Im ok with recoil and care less about flash but i want the smallest frame hammerless revolver but in biggest bore manageable. Ive shot .357 snub am im ok with it.
Looks like either way it may be a while before im in possession of one either way while all this hysteria continues.
Looks like either way it may be a while before im in possession of one either way while all this hysteria continues.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:15 pm to Ace Midnight
The LCR is leaps and bounds ahead of smith airweights for lightweight carry revolvers. The LCR trigger is nothing short of incredible for a DA.
The SP101 has the small size of an airweight but weighs a whole lot. The whole thing is stainless, guts and all. The best compact revolver on the market if you can tolerate the weight.
An LCR .357 magnum full of good .38+p self defense ammo is THE gun to arm a lady with.
The SP101 has the small size of an airweight but weighs a whole lot. The whole thing is stainless, guts and all. The best compact revolver on the market if you can tolerate the weight.
An LCR .357 magnum full of good .38+p self defense ammo is THE gun to arm a lady with.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:59 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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An LCR .357 magnum full of good .38+p self defense ammo is THE gun to arm a lady with.
Lady, h*ll - I'm thinking about making that my pocket gun. Especially with the CT grip - my daughter saw a video with that combo and said, "That's cheating!"
Posted on 2/1/13 at 12:30 am to Ace Midnight
I pocket carry an LCR in a Desantis Super Fly pocket holster.
I don't have full use of my dominant hand (rated at 80% may years ago, but truthfully probably much better than that after years of adjustment), and the quality of the Hogue grip (non-laser) and triger sold me on the gun.
And again, the 35 Whelen is an excellent round. I've got a cooler full of deer meat in the truck right now thanks to that gun.
I don't have full use of my dominant hand (rated at 80% may years ago, but truthfully probably much better than that after years of adjustment), and the quality of the Hogue grip (non-laser) and triger sold me on the gun.
And again, the 35 Whelen is an excellent round. I've got a cooler full of deer meat in the truck right now thanks to that gun.
Posted on 2/1/13 at 1:15 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Ace Midnight
By the way guys, the .357 LCR is called the KLCR even though it isn't written that way on the gun. Just making sure the OP knows the correct name in case he starts searching.
EDIT: LCR stands for "Lightweight Compact Revolver" and I'm assuming KLCR stands for "Killer Lightweight Compact Revolver" because that's what it does to your wrist.
This post was edited on 2/1/13 at 1:17 am
Posted on 2/1/13 at 1:20 am to rattlebucket
Go with the .35 whelen & ruger LCR.
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