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Went shooting today

Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:46 pm
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:46 pm
Put 150 round through my Taurus Millennium Pro .40, only 1 failure to feed :frickyea:, and I was shooting way low all day. I started to notice I was jerking the gun when I pulled the trigger so I know that had something to do with it but I couldnt keep a firm grip on the gun and hold it steady while squeezing the trigger. As I went on I was getting a lot better and was at least hitting the target at 25 yards but was still shooting a little low.

Any tips from the wise men of the OB?
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61759 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:48 pm to
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:frickyeah:


You're happy about a failure to feed?
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21774 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:49 pm to
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You're happy about a failure to feed?



Nah I was just expecting more.
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9899 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:49 pm to
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As I went on I was getting a lot better and was at least hitting the target at 25 yards but was still shooting a little low.




You are happy to only hit the target at 25 yards?
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:49 pm to
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You're happy about a failure to feed?

He did buy a Taurus..
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61759 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 3:50 pm to
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You are happy to only hit the target at 25 yards?


That too

Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:01 pm to
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Any tips from the wise men of the OB?


Yea, apparently dont post here if you arent shooting all 10's with Glocks or a 1911.

Stance and grip are big factors, but you really need to put the time in at the end of the day.

Hardest part of our marksmanship training was getting guys that only fire two weeks out of the year and expecting us to work miracles with them.


ETA Malfunctions often happen with cheaper ammo, dont short yourself in that dept.
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 4:04 pm
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25349 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:01 pm to
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did buy a Taurus..


1000+ rounds through mine and not a single jam/failure/stovepipe/ nada.

OP: how big is your target?
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10147 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:04 pm to
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Yea, apparently dont post here if you arent shooting all 10's with Glocks or a 1911.

& Judge
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21774 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:05 pm to
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OP: how big is your target?



12 inch diameter target.

I am still working on my grip. I never could find one that was the most comfortable. I'm so used to a Ruger GP-100 and can shoot it pretty well but I've never had much experience with semi's and this one is a bit different. I also have to take into account that it only has a 3.25" barrel.
Posted by absolute692
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Member since Feb 2007
4003 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:05 pm to
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I started to notice I was jerking the gun when I pulled the trigger


I found out I did that also.

My buddy gave me his pistol and said shoot, unbeknownst to me it was unloaded, pulled the trigger while simultaneously pushing the gun toward the ground (to adjust for kick I assume). He told me that's what one of his superiors did to him in the marines.

Anyway now I just gradually pull the trigger with a firmer grip. Don't know exactly when the gun will fire and will lead to more consistency.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:12 pm to
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You're happy about a failure to feed?


Taurus

one...



ETA: Germans
This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 4:13 pm
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:14 pm to
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Yea, apparently dont post here if you arent shooting all 10's with Glocks or a 1911


You're embellishing. The jokes originated in the happy about 0.7% rate of FTF.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:16 pm to
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My buddy gave me his pistol and said shoot, unbeknownst to me it was unloaded, pulled the trigger while simultaneously pushing the gun toward the ground (to adjust for kick I assume). He told me that's what one of his superiors did to him in the marines.

Anyway now I just gradually pull the trigger with a firmer grip. Don't know exactly when the gun will fire and will lead to more consistency.



Give a newb a revolver and watch them push that 7th round out...
Posted by absolute692
US of A, MFer
Member since Feb 2007
4003 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:17 pm to
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Give a newb a revolver and watch them push that 7th round out...


Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61759 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 4:26 pm to
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Give a newb a revolver and watch them push that 7th round out...


I've seen it!

Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12666 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 5:11 pm to
I occasionally go to the police range with a cop buddy. He is also an instructor and a very good shot. The little things he teaches about shooting, target acquisition you could read in a book all, but being there one on one I always learn something. He also tells me he will put dummy rounds in mags before giving the to trainees and watch the push the pistol when shooting them.The best part is when he pulls out the full auto AR's and MP5
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 5:54 pm to
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Put 150 round through my Taurus Millennium Pro .40, only 1 failure to feed :frickyea:, and I was shooting way low all day. I started to notice I was jerking the gun when I pulled the trigger so I know that had something to do with it but I couldnt keep a firm grip on the gun and hold it steady while squeezing the trigger. As I went on I was getting a lot better and was at least hitting the target at 25 yards but was still shooting a little low.

Any tips from the wise men of the OB?


Never claimed to be wise, nor a good shooter. But I have trained under some who are considered to be.

Here are a couple of links.

The first one will elicit squeals from the Weaver guys. Sorry. But virtually every top competition shooter on this planet uses the isosceles stance (obviously modified when shooting from behind a barricade).

The second link illustrates some of the points made in the first one.

LINK 1 (Originally published in American Handgunner)

LINK 2

This post was edited on 5/16/12 at 5:57 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72270 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 6:03 pm to
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Any tips from the wise men of the OB?


Shoot more. Handguns are hard as hell to shoot and the only way to get good at it is to do it a whole bunch.

Look up a few grips on the internet (ways to hold the gun, not the actual gun piece) and try them. See which one you like best and use it.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 8:57 pm to
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Any tips from the wise men of the OB?


One more thing I failed to mention -- don't underestimate the value of taking a lesson in "handgun marksmanship fundamentals" from a good instructor. I don't know where you live, but there is probably someone within a reasonable radius if you check the NRA instructor website.

Shooting a handgun is pretty simple if a person gets some good basic instruction, before he develop bad habits.

I'm certainly not an exceptional teacher. But to illustrate my comment about the "difficulty" factor, I've had 6 women come in for an individual private lesson in the past month (prior to taking their Concealed Handgun Permit class).

Two of the women were LSU coeds. The third lady was in her mid-late 20's, and her mother was the fourth student. The other two were grandmothers in their mid-late 50's.

Two of the women had shot handguns "once or twice, a few years ago." Three had no handgun experience at all, but had fired a shotgun or a rifle "a few times." The sixth girl had never shot any sort of firearm -- not even a BB gun.

What these women had in common were (1) none had any bad habits and (2) none had any reluctance to seek and accept coaching.

Each women, at the end of one private lesson, could place 90-95 out of 100 rounds of 9mm FMJ ammo into a 3" group at a distance of 21 feet. Of the 5-10 rounds that fell outside that circle, all hit within a few inches, and were the result of getting tired or losing concentration.

[BTW -- I don't have a lot of examples of results from guys who come in for a lesson -- because guys rarely take lessons. They come straight to CHP class knowing that the live-fire exercise isn't too difficult, and they all pass. But most of them are still pretty lousy pistol shooters. Most of the male shooters who actually request a private lesson are coming in to get help with a specific problem, such as a flinch.]

I use the example of the women shooters as a way of reiterating to the OP that he might want to look into this option somewhere in his area. I'm sure any one of his shooting buddies might be able to give him some tips or pointers -- but very few of those buddies will be able to coach, diagnose, critique, etc. to correct any deficiencies and get him (keep him) on the "straight & narrow."

The only other thing I'll offer as a comment to the OP is that starting out with a .40 S&W (especially those with short barrels)commonly leads to a flinch. And flinches need to be diagnosed and stopped quickly, because they get worse in a hurry. And if you reinforce a flinch enough times, through repetition, it's very difficult to eradicate. Yes, it can be done, but it gets harder and harder over time to get rid of one.
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