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We got any building/framing/roof experts on here?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:53 am
Posted on 11/3/17 at 10:53 am
Talked my wife out of a plastic/Resin shed but now I get to frame and build my own. I've been playing with different roof lines and layouts for a 8x8 shed; gambrel, gabel, and now a saltbox roof line. Whatever roof line I do with I've been toying with the idea of not framing in an overhang to save me some work. With a 8x8 shed my sheeting would stop just short even with the inside edge of the side panels. Would felt, drip edge, and shingles be enough to keep water from going down between the side panel where the roof sheathing stops? Or do I need to frame in an overhang?
You can see the roof stops just short of the wall panel. So there would be a seam there. A piece of 1" trim (not shown) would be on top of the side panels so really there are two seams [Sheathing|seam|T1-11|seam|trim] the drip edge and felt have to protect.
You can see the roof stops just short of the wall panel. So there would be a seam there. A piece of 1" trim (not shown) would be on top of the side panels so really there are two seams [Sheathing|seam|T1-11|seam|trim] the drip edge and felt have to protect.
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Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:01 am to DeoreDX
I'm no roofing expert, but there's no way I'd build a 8x8 shed. If I was building one, it'd be bigger then that. You are going to wish you had more space very quickly.
If you think it might leak, it likely will. That would be my suggestion.
If you think it might leak, it likely will. That would be my suggestion.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:08 am to DeoreDX
Why not buy a wood framed one? Minimum size 8'x12'
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:08 am to DeoreDX
Only reason I would want an overhang is if I was concerned about dumping rain against the bottom of the shed. If it's sitting on the ground and isn't graded away water will pool and rot the floor boards. If it's sitting on just a paving slab you could have issues with the soil under the slab but if it's on a slab with a perimeter (shovel) beam it should be fine.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:10 am to wickowick
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Why not buy a wood framed one? Minimum size 8'x12'
I threw together a quick design with material quantities for a low sloped gable that was 8'x12' for a buddy.
He bought one exactly like it prebuilt.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:21 am to baldona
I’d love to build a 8x12 but I don’t have the space in my back yard. It is small and wooded. As it is an overhand on the sides might encroach on the 4ft setback local codes require.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 11:40 am to DeoreDX
My 12 year old son and I built this 12'x16' shed last year around this time. Go as big as you can. This one filled up fast.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 12:29 pm to zx24
Do the overhang. 12" all around. 16" would be better. Reason, that helps deflect water run off from the base of the building.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:48 pm to fishfighter
This is a to scale map of my back yard. I only included the trees I can't cut down without professional help on the map. Lots of smaller trees in the back area. There is row of football sized rocks that separate the natural area with the area covered by grass. The back left part of my yard is the highest point in the neighborhood. If I put it there I will be dealing with a lot of elevation change and because it's so high you could see the top 2/3'rds from the road all the way to the entrance to the neighborhood. Wife thinks it would be an eye sore there. Behind my house is nothing but woods. There is a low spot on the right side that is where the whole back yard drains. I'm trying to avoid putting it in that area but I guess I could. If I put a 8x12 there the back would be in the center of the run off and would be about 12" lower than the front of the shed. Any wider and I get into the 4" setback from the property line. Maybe I can talk the wife into letting me pull up the play set. My son is 9 and doesn't use it any more.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:39 pm to DeoreDX
soon as you finish it will be too small - do an overhang
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:28 pm to DeoreDX
Me and my dad did a 12x16' in February. We did a 1' overhang all over.
You could do a piece of flashing from the roof to over your siding to keep water out but I think it would look bad. You would also have an issue with water pooling up right on your foundation.
You could do a piece of flashing from the roof to over your siding to keep water out but I think it would look bad. You would also have an issue with water pooling up right on your foundation.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:40 pm to JamalSanders
If I build a 8x12 I'll most likely push it back over the natural run off area and because of the elevation change will most likely set it on blocks. I shouldn't have to worry about water puddling under the shed in that scenario would I?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 6:46 pm to DeoreDX
You will need to grade the shite out of the pad. I might put it on piers if that's where you want to put it. Piers will be reasonably cheap and will allow you to basically have a ditch running under the she'd without compromising the structural integrity of the she'd.
I'm a geotech engineer and will be in Auburn for the iron bowl if you want me to come take a look at it for you. Hell I've got some time off in December if you want help.
I'm a geotech engineer and will be in Auburn for the iron bowl if you want me to come take a look at it for you. Hell I've got some time off in December if you want help.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:31 am to DeoreDX
Usually the set back is to the building line and not the fasci, so I would check your local codes. The more overhang you have the longer your building will last.
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