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re: Varminting & Rimfire Discussion - .17 HMR
Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:57 pm to LSUballs
Posted on 7/18/12 at 2:57 pm to LSUballs
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It will also cause instanteous death to a nanny via the ear canal
I will go ahead and assume that you've been told that as well, and have not confirmed that either.
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adequate enough
I like a little more assurance when exterminating varmints
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Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:00 pm to Slickback
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How far?
100 & 125 Yrds. With the sweet 17 scope if you know the yardage i'd shoot it out to 300 yrds. The wind is the biggest issue i see with the bullet but that's with any gun IMO
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:04 pm to Slickback
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I will go ahead and assume that you've been told that as well, and have not confirmed that either.
Uh, yea. I had a buddy that did that. But he moved to Uganda or France or something.
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adequate enough
I was talking about the scope. It's good enough for me, but I'm sure you could step it up a notch.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:04 pm to LSUballs
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It will also cause instanteous death to a nanny via the ear canal.
I've heard this as well, Will also kill big boar hogs. (Fact)
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:08 pm to Nascar Fan
I shot a 1/4 inch steel target with mine at 50yds and it just about punched through.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:16 pm to Judge Smails
quote:The statement was,
contrarians gonna contrary
quote:Deer often don't go down on the spot with a 150 grain bullet, so it is not surprising at all that a yote won't go down on the spot after being hit with a 17 grain bullet.
won't go down on the spot
Where does one aim at a yote with the .17?
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:22 pm to AlxTgr
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Where does one aim at a yote with the .17?
Head shot
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:24 pm to AlxTgr
I have a 17hmr,17mach2, and the 204.
Will any of them kill a deer,yote or squirrel? Yes
Would i take the 17s deer or yote hunting? No
If i was squirrel hunting with my 17s would i shoot a yote? Yes and it would do the job.
Bottom line there is a ton of different guns, its all about preferance. I would take my 204 to shoot a coyote anyday. And take my 17 mach 2 over my 17hmr squirrel hunting. So do i NEED a 17hmr? No! But damit i got one and its fun as hell to shoot! Get you the hmr! You will have a blast shooting it! Can never have enough guns
Will any of them kill a deer,yote or squirrel? Yes
Would i take the 17s deer or yote hunting? No
If i was squirrel hunting with my 17s would i shoot a yote? Yes and it would do the job.
Bottom line there is a ton of different guns, its all about preferance. I would take my 204 to shoot a coyote anyday. And take my 17 mach 2 over my 17hmr squirrel hunting. So do i NEED a 17hmr? No! But damit i got one and its fun as hell to shoot! Get you the hmr! You will have a blast shooting it! Can never have enough guns
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:29 pm to FieldandStream
quote:You have made your case. Burden has been shifted.
I would take my 204 to shoot a coyote anyday. And take my 17 mach 2 over my 17hmr squirrel hunting.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 3:43 pm to Nascar Fan
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Head shot
BOOM goes the dynamite
Posted on 7/18/12 at 4:02 pm to Judge Smails
FieldandStream has it right:
Yes, a 17 HMR will kill a coyote, but if you want it to drop on the spot w/ a 17 HMR, it had better be pretty close range or a head shot.
I've got a 17 Mach 2. It's a much better squirrel hunting round than the 17 HMR as the latter causes too much damage. OTOH, a poster here has previously said he limits damage using a FMJ bullet in the 17 HMR; I've not had a chance to try that, yet.
I just got back from a ground squirrel hunting trip. The 17 M2 did well, killing it's fair share of squirrels, but the 17 HMR's (3) on the trip were better guns as they were more destructive (nonedible squirrels) and flatter shooting.
22 Hornet is a more versatile gun than the 11 HMR, but many Hornets are not very accurate. Hornet ammo is also much more expensive than the HMR. If you handload, you can make the Hornet do everything the HMR does and more.
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I have a 17hmr,17mach2, and the 204.
Will any of them kill a deer,yote or squirrel? Yes
Would i take the 17s deer or yote hunting? No
If i was squirrel hunting with my 17s would i shoot a yote? Yes and it would do the job.
Bottom line there is a ton of different guns, its all about preferance. I would take my 204 to shoot a coyote anyday. And take my 17 mach 2 over my 17hmr squirrel hunting. So do i NEED a 17hmr? No! But damit i got one and its fun as hell to shoot! Get you the hmr! You will have a blast shooting it! Can never have enough guns
Yes, a 17 HMR will kill a coyote, but if you want it to drop on the spot w/ a 17 HMR, it had better be pretty close range or a head shot.
I've got a 17 Mach 2. It's a much better squirrel hunting round than the 17 HMR as the latter causes too much damage. OTOH, a poster here has previously said he limits damage using a FMJ bullet in the 17 HMR; I've not had a chance to try that, yet.
I just got back from a ground squirrel hunting trip. The 17 M2 did well, killing it's fair share of squirrels, but the 17 HMR's (3) on the trip were better guns as they were more destructive (nonedible squirrels) and flatter shooting.
22 Hornet is a more versatile gun than the 11 HMR, but many Hornets are not very accurate. Hornet ammo is also much more expensive than the HMR. If you handload, you can make the Hornet do everything the HMR does and more.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 4:05 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
AlxTgr,
Don't start writing the Mach 2's obituary as it's not dead yet. Rounds still available from Hornady, CCI, Federal, Winchester and Eley. Certainly, there are a lot more HMR's sold than M2's.
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The HMR seems like the answer to a question no one asked. I wish the Mach 2 would have survived.
Don't start writing the Mach 2's obituary as it's not dead yet. Rounds still available from Hornady, CCI, Federal, Winchester and Eley. Certainly, there are a lot more HMR's sold than M2's.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 4:07 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:One of these days I'll get off my butt and actually buy one of the semi-autos that come up for sale.
Don't start writing the Mach 2's obituary as it's not dead yet. Rounds still available from Hornady, CCI, Federal, Winchester and Eley. Certainly, there are a lot more HMR's sold than M2's.
Posted on 7/18/12 at 5:34 pm to Judge Smails
i have the savage with the thumbhole stock. i'll see if i can dig up the pic
Posted on 7/18/12 at 5:34 pm to AlxTgr
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One of these days I'll get off my butt and actually buy one of the semi-autos that come up for sale.
You'd be better off w/ a bolt or lever action M2. I think there are only 2 gun manufacturers who still make semi-auto Mach 2's, Volquartsen and Magnum Research (VERY expensive). There were safety issues using the usual 22 LR receiver for the higher pressure Mach 2. There was a time when you could buy kits to convert the Ruger 10/22 from 22 LR to 17 Mach 2, but I think these have been discontinued, as well. In fact, the 17M2 ammo has a warning on the box to not use it in guns converted to M2. My M2 is a really fun gun to shoot and scarey accurate.
Not many makers of the M2. Of the non-custom manufacturers, I think it just Savage and Anschutz (both are bolt actions) and Henry (lever). If you buy a M2, you'll enjoy it. :-)
Posted on 7/18/12 at 5:37 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Posted on 7/18/12 at 5:39 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
quote:I understand, but if I can't have a semi, then I just don't really want one. I have seen a Thompson come up on gunbroker.
You'd be better off w/ a bolt or lever action M2. I think there are only 2 gun manufacturers who still make semi-auto Mach 2's, Volquartsen and Magnum Research (VERY expensive).
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