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TPWD deer kill off
Posted on 6/10/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 6/10/24 at 2:40 pm
CWD RW Ranch
I've been keeping up with this story over the past few years. They went in last week and killed the whole herd with exception to a few that the owner himself euthanized. They shot all but a few of those with firearms, as Williams and his daughter Maree Lou Williams had personally euthanized three of their oldest deer before workers arrived. This included a 15-year-old breeder buck named Monarch Supreme, and an older doe that Maree Lou had bottle-fed as a fawn. So, CWD is so deadly that their breeder buck that they euthanized only lived to be 15 years old.
I've been keeping up with this story over the past few years. They went in last week and killed the whole herd with exception to a few that the owner himself euthanized. They shot all but a few of those with firearms, as Williams and his daughter Maree Lou Williams had personally euthanized three of their oldest deer before workers arrived. This included a 15-year-old breeder buck named Monarch Supreme, and an older doe that Maree Lou had bottle-fed as a fawn. So, CWD is so deadly that their breeder buck that they euthanized only lived to be 15 years old.
This post was edited on 6/10/24 at 2:42 pm
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Posted on 6/10/24 at 2:44 pm to mtb010
Get ready for the "genetically altered" CWD free deer, coming to a state near you soon. 
Posted on 6/10/24 at 2:50 pm to mtb010
Without knowing this particular situation I have a hard time getting upset about it. I am not a fan of whitetail farming and it is a likely source for CWD outbreaks in wild herds.
Culling livestock herds to protect the overall populations is not uncommon. Farm raised Whitetail deer are no different. I don’t care if one’s name is King Kong Bundy Buffalo Supreme.
Culling livestock herds to protect the overall populations is not uncommon. Farm raised Whitetail deer are no different. I don’t care if one’s name is King Kong Bundy Buffalo Supreme.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 2:50 pm to mtb010
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So, CWD is so deadly that their breeder buck that they euthanized only lived to be 15 years old.
I'm not saying I know all of the facts, but you do realize people live to be 80 before they contract diseases lime cancer all the time, right?
Does it say they know the deer had it for an extended time? And how would they know that?
Just because the deer lived 15 years doesn't mean it had CWD that long, or had contracted it say, 5 years ago and was living with it.
The whole CWD thing is crazy to me, and seems to be a huge overreaction to something that isn't going to be stopped by shooting a bunch of deer, but let's not act as stupid as the agencies.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 2:54 pm to Cowboyfan89
From what I gather 75 percent of his herd had tested positive back in 2021 and he's been fighting it since and states that he didn't loose any to CWD since the initial testing in 2021.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 3:02 pm to mtb010
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By May 28, 254 of the captive whitetail deer that had died at the ranch since March 2021 had tested positive for CWD, TPWD officials said. In a past legal filing, the agency referred to the breeding operation as “the worst-ever CWD outbreak” in Texas history, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
“Nearly 90 percent of samples collected [from RW Trophy Ranch] this year tested positive or suspect positive,” TPWD said in the emailed statement. “RW Trophy Ranch was losing an average of 2 percent of its deer herd each week. In addition, 12 deer also tested positive on release sites either near or associated with RW Trophy Ranch.”
Officials added that during their most recent inspection of Williams’ breeding facilities on May 14, they observed “a number of deer displaying general signs of CWD, including droopy ears and disorientation.” They said one deer “was visibly shaking and had tremors.”
They need to release pictures of this breeding operation. I hope they have pictures as evidence.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 3:10 pm to kengel2
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254 of the captive whitetail deer that had died at the ranch since March 2021 had tested positive for CWD
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“the worst-ever CWD outbreak” in Texas history
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“Nearly 90 percent of samples collected [from RW Trophy Ranch] this year tested positive or suspect positive,” . . . “RW Trophy Ranch was losing an average of 2 percent of its deer herd each week. In addition, 12 deer also tested positive on release sites either near or associated with RW Trophy Ranch.”
That sounds like they need to burn the soil and create a quarantine zone around the whole area like Chernobyl.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 3:15 pm to kengel2
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12 deer also tested positive on release sites either near or associated with RW Trophy Ranch
Uh oh.. Wonder what they're gonna do with these release sites..
Something similar happened at the Kerrville research center which is state run and has been around since forever.. They went in and killed all the deer and then found out it was a false positive.
I don't know how to feel. I know some breeders and it's all about the money. That's it.. I also don't want an over reaching agency though.
It sounds like this place needed to be shut down.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:02 pm to JDPndahizzy
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I also don't want an over reaching agency
That’s the only reason I am hesitant to support this. But farm raising whitetails is a relatively new thing in the livestock world and I think we are just now finding out how much damage it can do.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:03 pm to TigerDeacon
So, the guy acknowledges losing at least 254 deer in the span of 3ish years. The state says that those 254 deer all tested positive for CWD.
The guys says:
It would be pretty easy to prove the guy is full of it by releasing the testing info. I'm assuming that evidence has been through court somewhere at some point. Would it be eligible for a FOIA request?
And how do those dead deer numbers stack up against other deer breeding operations for a similar time period?
The guys says:
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“[Texas Parks and Wildlife] put something in my pen, I’m convinced. And the Good Lord above would have to tell me they didn’t before I’d ever believe it,” Williams says. “We’ve lost a lot of deer, but for three and a half years we’ve had the poor son-of-a-guns standing in the same pens. I don’t care how healthy [your] deer are. You keep them together for a long time and you’re gonna have more sickness. And we’ve had lots of pneumonia and a lot of EHD.”
It would be pretty easy to prove the guy is full of it by releasing the testing info. I'm assuming that evidence has been through court somewhere at some point. Would it be eligible for a FOIA request?
And how do those dead deer numbers stack up against other deer breeding operations for a similar time period?
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:30 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:a selfish cocksucker.
the guy
Posted on 6/10/24 at 6:52 pm to White Bear
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a selfish cocksucker.
I tend to agree.
I'd just like to see the state lay out the evidence publicly to put to rest his (likely) nonsense and allegations. That's a dangerous game he, and others involved with his operation, is playing.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 7:37 pm to Purple Spoon
Deer aren't meant to be domesticated, pen raised animals. Domesticated animals have died a billion deaths to reach a point where they can tolerate it.
Posted on 6/10/24 at 8:14 pm to Tangineck
Pens are bad for deer. But big money boys own the pens.
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