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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:27 am to NOLAGT
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and the image was vastly better IMO
Well I would hope so. It's a pretty big step up in price from the Rattler.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:57 am to Soul Gleaux
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How so? I was looking into getting a reap-ir, always read Trijicon easily had the best picture.
Plenty other companies have scopes with better images now. Trijicon also doesn’t have onboard recording or range finding capabilities. Both are standard on scopes that are a fraction of the Trijicon price.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 9:57 am
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:22 am to reds on reds on reds
Anyone tryna take a swing at trijicon quailty just hasn't been around many thermals or in the game very long. Bottom line they are a top dog in the game. Military contracts have helped them really step up private sector technology offers.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:26 am to One More Shot
You must be new around here
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:05 am to reds on reds on reds
Not sure i want to get in this pissing match but here we go. Everyone thinks the thermal they bought is the best. The market is flooded with cheap junk running the same sensors with shite software. I've used nearly all of them and would only own a select few brands/models . If you go cheap you will have cheap product results.
Are you sitting in a deer stand popping 5 pigs a year at 100yds? Are you doing active crop or animal protection?
Reds in on track with the correct info.
but i will say the new XG60 is a big upgrade from the previous XG50. Its only downfall is the 40mK sensor. I've demoed this scope and it was solid.
Trijicon is outdated, good image though. Some of their guys left and created Nvision. Buy nvision before trijicon.
Buy the best suited for your needs. Dont buy a 384 scope if you dont have to. Do you need LRF? Using an external LRF via bluetooth sucks
High vs low base mag - when you 2x zoom you 1/2 resolution so keep that in mind.
25 vs 40mK sensor makes a big difference
12 micron vs 17 micron
thermal sensor size/resolution vs screen resolution/pixels makes a big difference in image display quality
Not all germanium lenses are created equal. they are also costly. cheap scopes have cheap lenses
Are you sitting in a deer stand popping 5 pigs a year at 100yds? Are you doing active crop or animal protection?
Reds in on track with the correct info.
but i will say the new XG60 is a big upgrade from the previous XG50. Its only downfall is the 40mK sensor. I've demoed this scope and it was solid. Trijicon is outdated, good image though. Some of their guys left and created Nvision. Buy nvision before trijicon.
Buy the best suited for your needs. Dont buy a 384 scope if you dont have to. Do you need LRF? Using an external LRF via bluetooth sucks
High vs low base mag - when you 2x zoom you 1/2 resolution so keep that in mind.
25 vs 40mK sensor makes a big difference
12 micron vs 17 micron
thermal sensor size/resolution vs screen resolution/pixels makes a big difference in image display quality
Not all germanium lenses are created equal. they are also costly. cheap scopes have cheap lenses
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:08 am to One More Shot
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Pulsar has problems with our losuisna heat and humidity glitches on those warmer summer nights
Simply not true and i have the copious amounts of video evidence to back this up through multiple pulsar devices.
The XP50 25mk sensor and the XL50 35mK sensors are the best out there for this scenario. I hunt weekly (year round coyote and hog control) in South LA and the Mississippi delta so again, I have the backup data and I’ve used them side by side with other brands
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/9/25 at 11:44 am to SeaPickle
And I will say nearly all thermals will look good at 50 yds regardless of conditions. Everyone has a different taste for what is a “good image” but no one wants to admit their $3k thermal doesn’t look great. I’m not knocking someone for getting what they can afford but a cheap 384 res scope with a high mK rating and a cheap lense will not look as good a higher end scope.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:31 pm to reds on reds on reds
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Trijicon also doesn’t have onboard recording
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:33 pm to Soul Gleaux
They must have added that since I last looked at them. My comments on no rangefinder and better values for the price remain the same.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:37 pm to southside
You looking to join my Southern Army after the collapse bro. I need another 50 mm sniper. Lol.
Seriously look at used thermal scopes. What are you trying to kill
Seriously look at used thermal scopes. What are you trying to kill
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:39 pm to reds on reds on reds
What would you recommend as far as having onboard dvr and best picture quality?
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:44 pm to Soul Gleaux
Just asking for clarification, my understanding is that is your spending at least 2500-3000 minimum it’s a a complete waste of time. Is that still true?
I have some thermal binoculars etc and I rarely ever use them
I have some thermal binoculars etc and I rarely ever use them
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:50 pm to TutHillTiger
I’m just curious what has the best image and onboard dvr, regardless of price.
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:52 pm to Soul Gleaux
Pulsar.
Take your pick from the thermion line based on needs and price. I can help explain specs or help pick one to fit your needs
Take your pick from the thermion line based on needs and price. I can help explain specs or help pick one to fit your needs
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 1:56 pm to jdavid1
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Well I would hope so. It's a pretty big step up in price from the Rattler.
When I bought them it was a 1500 msrp price difference but the iray also adds a built in laser range finder that adds to the cost difference.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:43 pm to NOLAGT
hopefully you aren't aiming your rifle at somebody
Posted on 1/9/25 at 4:42 pm to Pepperidge
No…that would be dumb as shite. I just got the scope and had it sitting on my mailbox and I told my buddy to walk outside 
The only reason I didn't look at Pulsar as much is because they were tube style. I wanted a more compact for the SBR it was going on but maybe one day I will "need" one for a bolt rifle after my iray falls off the boat.
The only reason I didn't look at Pulsar as much is because they were tube style. I wanted a more compact for the SBR it was going on but maybe one day I will "need" one for a bolt rifle after my iray falls off the boat.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:40 pm to SeaPickle
SeaPickle.. Have you tried the pulsar XT50 binocs? Fixing to pull the trigger on these for scanning and then spending a little less on the scope.
What do you think the future of thermal is? Lower prices on high end like pulsar or have they found their sweet spot? How much better can pulsar get. They are super impressive currently, cant imagine where they improve
What do you think the future of thermal is? Lower prices on high end like pulsar or have they found their sweet spot? How much better can pulsar get. They are super impressive currently, cant imagine where they improve
Posted on 1/10/25 at 7:24 am to LChama
I have not used the XT. I plan to very soon. In the past I have used the XP and XL50 mergers along with the XP and XL50 telos.
If some of my new gear didn't eliminate the need for a dedicated scanner, I'd own the XT merger.
What's your reason for wanting to go this route and a lesser scope? What kind of hunting are you doing?
Thermal technology is always improving. Some new additions have only small changes though. I believe the next leap will need to be on higher resolution 1280+ with a higher base mag. The problem they (all manufacturers) have now is a high resolution sesnor but super low basemag (2-2.5x) when the end user wants 3-4x.
I'm getting rid of my XL50 (1.75x) and going to the XL60 (2.5x) but I really would like a 3-4x for what I do.
I think the next phase in pricing will come when 384 res is phased out. 640 will be the baseline at $2-4k. That's just my opinion.
If some of my new gear didn't eliminate the need for a dedicated scanner, I'd own the XT merger.
What's your reason for wanting to go this route and a lesser scope? What kind of hunting are you doing?
Thermal technology is always improving. Some new additions have only small changes though. I believe the next leap will need to be on higher resolution 1280+ with a higher base mag. The problem they (all manufacturers) have now is a high resolution sesnor but super low basemag (2-2.5x) when the end user wants 3-4x.
I'm getting rid of my XL50 (1.75x) and going to the XL60 (2.5x) but I really would like a 3-4x for what I do.
I think the next phase in pricing will come when 384 res is phased out. 640 will be the baseline at $2-4k. That's just my opinion.
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