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Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 7/3/21 at 10:59 pm to
Love the pics. Snakes intrigue me and I've caught a few non venomous before, but i have to ask...

What's the motivation to handle venomous snakes? Seems like a "juice ain't worth the squeeze" kinda deal.

To be clear, if you love it, I'm not trying to question that or say you're doing something wrong. Genuinely curious to your thought process.
This post was edited on 7/3/21 at 11:00 pm
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/4/21 at 1:29 am to
Throughout my youth I never handled venomous, though both my father and my uncle did (both were bitten at least once). I never felt the risk was worth it since I pursued dentistry as a profession and needed my hands. Been retired a while now. First I handled was a copperhead around 10 years ago, and that was just a one-off. It was the first one I had seen and just had to catch it. Never handled another for the next 10 years.

Then last year I moved onto some land in Folsom, and started running into lots of cottonmouths on the trails my family uses. I won’t kill them, but won’t leave them on my trails.First one I caught, I just carried him on my snake hook. The next one I ran into, I didn’t have my hook so I decided to pin him with a branch and pick him up. Didn’t give it much thought. The real turn came when I ran into the third one. I thought long and hard about whether I should grab him or just try to carry it with my hook. I had to carry him across a small creek and thought I risked losing him off the hook, so I went with the grab. For some reason, after that one the thrill became too much to resist. I enjoyed the risk.

Had that big weekend where I caught cottonmouths 5 days in a row (plus the copperhead), but I haven’t been out in over 3 weeks since then. Finally made it out today and only saw 2, but I just had to catch one. It started out as catching the ones on my trails to relocate them, but now when I find them on the creek behind my property (where I’ve seen 60+ this year and where relocation isn’t necessary), I just can’t resist the urge to handle at least one each trip. I’m comfortable enough with them now that I don’t really find it that risky. I use an elastic pinner that offers a reliable pin (and doesn’t hurt the snake), and with the proper grip they aren’t biting you. Probably.

Here’s the one I caught today...



This post was edited on 7/4/21 at 1:43 am
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 10:11 am to


Well, that was way beyond the answer I was expecting! Thank you very much.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7116 posts
Posted on 7/4/21 at 8:53 pm to
No problem. This year I’ve handled around a dozen cottons plus the copperhead. Going after more copperheads soon, and also hope to catch a canebrake rattler in the near future.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:43 pm to
One of my coolest finds ever today in Pearl River...

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Luckily momma gator wasn’t around . The eggs were exposed but none were damaged. Hope the raccoons don’t get them.

I started out where I caught my recent copperhead and stuck to the driest trails, but all I could find were cottonmouths. Caught 4 - all were decent sized. Pretty disappointing day on the snake end (was hoping for some variety), but the gator nest was an exciting find.












Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14768 posts
Posted on 9/25/21 at 4:47 pm to


Speckled King?

Found this guy near my compost bin. Let him go by the pond.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 9:09 am to
One of my many ribbons out for some sun.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14768 posts
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:22 am to



The garden is always full of anoles. I rarely get good photo ops with these guys, though. This one was in my cantaloupe vines that are starting to climb my fence.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/16/22 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

Living on my acreage is everything I dreamed it would be.

+350

Reminds me of this

quote:

When things are going sweetly and peacefully, please pause a moment, and then say out loud, "If this isn't nice, what is?” - Kurt Vonnegut
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 4:38 pm
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7116 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 3:36 pm to
Had back to back nights with 10 green snakes each night. Met up with a guy and hit around his house the first night then my house the next night with equal results. More greens in 2 nights than I’ve seen in the rest of my 56 years combined.













Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7116 posts
Posted on 7/17/22 at 5:22 pm to
…in true OB fashion, all 20 of these green demon spawn were properly identified as GDGM (goddamngreenmambas), gathered into a pile, and burned en masse with fire.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3485 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 5:04 pm to
Great shots!
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7116 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 10:24 pm to
Thanks - went again last night by my house and caught 6 more greens.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:19 pm to
Is it true green snakes are more ornery than most snakes?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 2:37 pm to
I have found that to be absolutely not true. I have handled dozens, and maybe bitten twice. I can give you multiple species where the bite % would be 100%.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6846 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

I have handled dozens, and maybe bitten twice.


I've never been bitten by one. Probably handled 8-10. My daughter had one in an aquarium for a couple months once and she'd take it out and play with it for hours and it never bit her.

quote:

I can give you multiple species where the bite % would be 100%.


tx rat snake has entered the chat
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7116 posts
Posted on 7/19/22 at 11:13 pm to
Out of the 26 we caught the past couple weeks, I think we had one or maybe two biters. Plenty of them like to musk you, but not nearly as bad as ribbon snakes. Every one of those little frickers has to musk you. The most ornery snakes I’ve encountered are racers - almost all of those bite. Last bite that really made me take notice was a big diamondback water snake a couple weeks ago. They have something in their saliva that makes you bleed more. I hadn’t been bitten by a big one in quite a while and was a little surprised how long the stinging sensation lingered. Still not nearly as bad as a wasp sting though.



Obligatory foot in picture.
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 11:18 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 6:57 am to
Buttermilks are the most aggressive I have encountered.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7116 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 9:58 am to
I’ve never herped in their range but they are high on my bucket list. Eventually I’ll make a road trip to try to catch one.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14768 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 6:39 am to
quote:

Speckled King? Found this guy near my compost bin. Let him go by the pond.


I’m wondering if this is the same snake grown up.

Found in my compost bin yesterday.
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