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re: The Fly Fishing Thread: Questions, pics, discussion all here

Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:25 am to
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 11:25 am to
I'm sure you will find places of your own, but put diamond lake outside of boulder on your list of places to check out.
Posted by BMax12
Covington
Member since Feb 2013
227 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:29 pm to
Good afternoon gents,
I will be headed to Maui in 3 weeks for my honeymoon and was going to take my fly rod and do a little surf fishing if I have some free time. Unfortunately all I have is a 5wt. Am I completely outgunned or are there some small tropical fish I would be able to catch? Any advice would be appreciated!
Posted by MichaelScott
Scranton
Member since Aug 2011
96 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 12:49 pm to
Okay cool. I just moved here so not too familiar with the area. Going to try the Blue River in Silverthorne for the easy access. The little lady wants to give it a try so I figured it'd be easy to get to and we can grab some lunch or something while we're there.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 8/4/16 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28650 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

What advantage do the boots provide over the boots that are attached to my duck hunting waders?



Just to add to what Shark said, the boots give you a lot more stability.
Posted by BMax12
Covington
Member since Feb 2013
227 posts
Posted on 8/4/16 at 4:07 pm to
Thanks! Will post pics.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5869 posts
Posted on 8/7/16 at 6:44 pm to
Everyone's favorite marsh critter.

Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
4030 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:09 am to
Awesome pic, why fly did you catch 'em on?



Casting question, i picked up a TFO Pro Series II 8 Wt the other day and while it's a slower action/heavier rod, I seem to get more out of that rod and cast further and more accurate than my Recon (faster action - tip flex).

I can feel the Recon has more power and capability but I can't seem to harness that power and accuracy.
I can feel the TFO Pro load pretty easily but having a harder time feeling the Recon load properly.

Any tips?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5869 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:18 am to
Did you just recently start fly fishing? I know nothing of either of those two rods, but fast action rods are much less forgiving than medium action rods. Any mistake in your casting stroke will be amplified with a fast action rod.

Another:

Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 9:21 am to
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Any tips?


What happens to your loops when you start casting for distance? Are they falling flat or landing in a tangled mess on the water?

The biggest mistake people make when trying to cast a fly rod for distance is they try too hard on both the haul and the forward cast.

Do less. Pick a distance you can cast to with tight loops and hit consistently. Make minor line speed adjustments with your haul and see if that will give you a few extra feet without collapsing your loop. The only way to get better is to practice but things start to fall apart when you try to force the line out with the rod. Being forceful or making power casts comes much much later in your casting evolution. You must first crawl before you can walk
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5869 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 10:40 am to
Has anyone been to SC flood tide fishing? I think I'm going to go next summer.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
4030 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

What happens to your loops when you start casting for distance? Are they falling flat or landing in a tangled mess on the water?


When I cast for distance with the REcon, I get (what I feel and see) are tight back cast but a loss of line speed on the final front cast. The line shoots out but only gets 40-50ft and the loop is a tangled mess. However, when it hits water, line is still fly out of the rod.
There is a break down some where.

With the slower TFO, I don't feel I need to power it because I can feel the line through out the cast and it shoots out 60-70 feet with power and ease.

Again, you can feel the power of the faster Recon in the cast but it's like it falls flat on its face.

And as a general statement, I know it's the user and not the rod. The rod has the capability but I'm not exercising it properly.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

When I cast for distance with the REcon, I get (what I feel and see) are tight back cast but a loss of line speed on the final front cast. The line shoots out but only gets 40-50ft and the loop is a tangled mess


You're losing line speed on your forward cast somehow. I'm willing to bet you're trying to double haul and not keeping your hands together. When that happens you end up moving the rod back and forth over the line. The end result is the rod doesn't have time to load and your fly line lands in a pile out on the water.

check this out

LINK
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
4030 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Did you just recently start fly fishing?


Ehh, very active for roughly 4 years or so...I wouldn't say new to the game but not seasoned.

What's the board's feeling on over lining. I've thought about over lining the recon 9 wt line on 8 wt rod to help get a better feel.
I'm just looking to accurately cast 50-70 ft in windy conditions.
I only get accurate cast with the recon at 40 consistently in good winds.
This post was edited on 8/8/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

What's the board's feeling on over lining. I've thought about over lining the recon 9 wt line on 8 wt rod to help get a better feel


Depends entirely on the type of line and the rod you're casting. A Recon is already fairly moderate and with most 8wt WFF lines running a little heavy anyway it can make over lining a tricky thing.

quote:

I only get accurate cast with the recon at 40 consistently in good winds.


Drag our your measuring tape. You have 9 feet of rod, three feet of arm, and 9 feet of leader. With 35 feet of fly line out you're landing the fly 55-60 from where you're standing.

Without seeing your cast, its impossible to give insight. I have seen A LOT of people cast, and what you're describing is 99 times out of 100 a line speed issue. Usually from someone messing up the double haul or pushing too hard on their forward cast.
Posted by DeboseKnows
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
1756 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 2:34 pm to
I'd like to.
Down here in Jacksonville and St. Augustine area we get some of the same type deal. It is really fun watching those fish work in that grass.

Summer of the Lagoon is almost over, water has been extremely shallow this past week and murkier than ever

It was fun while it lasted!
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
4030 posts
Posted on 8/8/16 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Without seeing your cast, its impossible to give insight. I


I certainly appreciate that.
I think you hit on something with my hands being too far apart on the double haul...damn impressive catch.

I'll owe you a beer for the help.
Posted by MichaelScott
Scranton
Member since Aug 2011
96 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 12:16 am to
Read through every page last week, bought a Cabela's Wind River Combo and went once and had a blast. I obviously missed something along the way because while I was out there, I was thinking, "if I change my fly out a lot, I'll eventually get to the fly line." Then I googled it when I got back and came across something like this:



My question is, does the image show the proper setup and if so, what size tippet do I need? When I google tippets, I see people carry them on their vests and what not so I guess one could change them frequently??

If it helps, I have a 8'-6", 5 wt and will be fishing in Colorado. My reel came with backing, fly line, and a leader, if referencing the diagram.

Thanks for the help!

Posted by LSUtiger17
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2009
3092 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 6:38 am to
quote:

Has anyone been to SC flood tide fishing? I think I'm going to go next summer.
I've always wanted to and my brother is now stationed out there for the next 7 months. Do you know if they have similar conditions in the winter or is it only a summer thing?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5869 posts
Posted on 8/9/16 at 7:53 am to
I think it's primarily a summer/late summer thing. I'm gonna try to go around this time next year.
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