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re: The appeal of bonefish?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 10:54 am to AubieALUMdvm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 10:54 am to AubieALUMdvm
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if that's what really drives them...
Oh no doubt, I'm more passionate about fishing than most and understand the appeal or certain things. Hell, some people hate redfishing and some people live for the deep blue. I've never done the fly fishing thing but will likely get into it soon so maybe that will change my mind on the reds.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:48 am to LSUlefty
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Why don't people eat bonefish?
To hardore bonefishermen, eating a bone is on the same level as eating a bald eagle. I'm not sure why exactly but the economic reasons are obvious. Don't eat the fish that people pay thousands of dollars and travel all over the world to catch. Bones are simply too valuable to the areas they inhabit. Similar to Hopedale's bull redfish. People travel from all over to fish bulls on the fly, the guides would have to be crazy to kill a single fish, even if it is legal.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:25 pm to AlxTgr
Like others have said, some don't get the thrill of filling a boat with trout. I enjoy a trout trip, but it's not nearly as rewarding as catching a red on artificial while pond hopping. It's a beer drinking, meat haul. And although some are definitely better trout fisherman and I acknowledge their skill (even the fact that most are skilled at both types of fishing), I just don't think it's as hard or rewarding.
I don't think it's just the sight fishing aspect. I think it's the difficulty level. I am very proud of the tarpon I caught. I'd be much less proud if I caught it on the charters that I've had friends go on in Tampa where they just catch them on cracked crab in a hole like they were catching drum.
I have a list of fish I'd like to catch. Bonefish isn't near the top, but I'm going to try one day I'm sure.
I don't think it's just the sight fishing aspect. I think it's the difficulty level. I am very proud of the tarpon I caught. I'd be much less proud if I caught it on the charters that I've had friends go on in Tampa where they just catch them on cracked crab in a hole like they were catching drum.
I have a list of fish I'd like to catch. Bonefish isn't near the top, but I'm going to try one day I'm sure.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:30 pm to KG6
Redfishing is much easier than trout fishing and if you don't think so than you haven't trout fished enough. They're both as easy or tough as you wanna make it.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:33 pm to KG6
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Like others have said, some don't get the thrill of filling a boat with trout. I enjoy a trout trip, but it's not nearly as rewarding as catching a red on artificial while pond hopping. It's a beer drinking, meat haul. And although some are definitely better trout fisherman and I acknowledge their skill (even the fact that most are skilled at both types of fishing), I just don't think it's as hard or rewarding.
I agree with that. I targeted trophy trout specifically for probably 4 years straight and it's awesome. The skill and patience involved isn't even comparable to going out and filling a box with whatever trout hits. Don't get me wrong - I love doing that too. I love pretty much all types of fishing and would never hate on anybody for what they like to do. Hunting and sight casting a triple tail or a redfish is infinitely more rewarding to me than pulling in trout after trout and filling up a box. It's not any more "fun" per se, but definitely more rewarding. I love going fishing with my friends, drinking beers, and filling up the box with trout too. It's just not an adrenaline rush like sight casting a tripletail or redfish. Targeting trophy trout is equally as rewarding and equally as frustrating. The difficulty level of targeting trophy trout, sight casting reds, or fishing triple tail is much higher than just going "trout fishing."
I'd like to catch a bonefish just because I think it would be cool to hook into a fish then have him go on a straight run for 200 yards. I keep most of the fish I catch though, and half the fun for me is going out and getting my own food...so it's definitely not at the top of my list.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:37 pm to PapaPogey
I'm going flyfishing for bonefish this summer hopefully. It's all about the hunt with bonefish/permit/tarpon. It isn't fishing, its hunting.
You don't have a rifle or shotgun, just a fishing rod. If you miss with your cast then you go home empty handed.
And bonefish range from a couple of lbs to 15lbs. They are immensely fast which in very shallow water is a lot of fun.
You don't have a rifle or shotgun, just a fishing rod. If you miss with your cast then you go home empty handed.
And bonefish range from a couple of lbs to 15lbs. They are immensely fast which in very shallow water is a lot of fun.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:38 pm to bluemoons
I think I just need to start fly fishing to understand the love of site fishing. I've got the boat but nobody to pole me around while I fish from the deck.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:41 pm to PapaPogey
Using live bait, I'd say it's pretty easy to catch redfish. Targeting with artificial only, I don't think so.
Trout fishing doesn't require a lot of lure technique, stealth, etc. It's finding the schools and reeling them in (And I admit there's a skill to doing that successfully over and over again). I've many a time been on trips where we out-fished the charter boats in the area and I know they are better fisherman than us. But if you watch the redfish tours, it's consistently the same people up there on the leaderboards. There's a skill to it that is difficult to master.
There's a reason every weekend warrior is running out to catch trout, yet you don't see nearly as many technical poling skiffs in the marsh.
I never had anyone willing or good enough to pole me around. I was the only one who practiced. I had a pole holder and rod holder on my platform. I'd do it by myself. Would be much more difficult with a fly rod though.
Trout fishing doesn't require a lot of lure technique, stealth, etc. It's finding the schools and reeling them in (And I admit there's a skill to doing that successfully over and over again). I've many a time been on trips where we out-fished the charter boats in the area and I know they are better fisherman than us. But if you watch the redfish tours, it's consistently the same people up there on the leaderboards. There's a skill to it that is difficult to master.
There's a reason every weekend warrior is running out to catch trout, yet you don't see nearly as many technical poling skiffs in the marsh.
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I've got the boat but nobody to pole me around while I fish from the deck.
I never had anyone willing or good enough to pole me around. I was the only one who practiced. I had a pole holder and rod holder on my platform. I'd do it by myself. Would be much more difficult with a fly rod though.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:42 pm to PapaPogey
I do probably 75% of my sight fishing by myself (except triple tail), and the i-Pilot helps a whole lot. It's easily doable with a regular trolling motor, but it's really convenient to be able to focus on finding the fish with the remote in my hand as opposed to constantly trying to control a drift or mess with the trolling motor. I'm also lucky enough to have good friends that are into the same shite I'm into though. Everybody in our crew is just as happy poling and/or filming as they are fishing. It becomes a team effort kind of deal, and everybody gets stoked on the fish - regardless who catches...especially with tripletail.
It's not just fly fishing that makes it fun - though that definitely adds another element. I was hooked on sight casting reds long before I started fly fishing for them. I might not recommend getting into fly fishing for your wallet's sake though .
That really depends on the spot. I can tell people that Lake P is loaded with trout right now, but if they don't know how to jig, they're not gonna catch as much as the people that do - even with live bait.
It's not just fly fishing that makes it fun - though that definitely adds another element. I was hooked on sight casting reds long before I started fly fishing for them. I might not recommend getting into fly fishing for your wallet's sake though .
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Trout fishing doesn't require a lot of lure technique, stealth, etc.
That really depends on the spot. I can tell people that Lake P is loaded with trout right now, but if they don't know how to jig, they're not gonna catch as much as the people that do - even with live bait.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:44 pm to PapaPogey
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I think I just need to start fly fishing to understand the love of site fishing. I've got the boat but nobody to pole me around while I fish from the deck.
Use a trolling motor. I used to site fish by myself a lot.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:47 pm to KG6
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Using live bait, I'd say it's pretty easy to catch redfish. Targeting with artificial only, I don't think so.
Same can be said with specks
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:49 pm to PapaPogey
I find hunting reds in a kayak / shallow draft boat more rewarding than loading up on trout.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:50 pm to PapaPogey
I rarely ever put live bait on my line. When we get in a school of specks, I usually keep up with those using larsh/croaker with only cocahoe and gulp plastics. I've not fished with live shrimp much, so they may pull away from me there. I just feel like I'm throwing my line into nothing when trout fishing and if they are there, they'll bite.
With reds, you stalk them and hit them in the nose with the bait.
With reds, you stalk them and hit them in the nose with the bait.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:53 pm to KG6
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I just feel like I'm throwing my line into nothing when trout fishing and if they are there, they'll bite.
Again, not really , but we can agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:53 pm to KG6
I'm gonna get into fly fishing for reds a lot this summer. I've greatly improved on sight fishing for reds in the last year using a baitcaster and I'm excited to start fly fishing for them. Got the reel already just need to pick out a rod to buy.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:54 pm to reds on reds on reds
So when are we having another OB Get together and sight fishing for some reds?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:55 pm to reds on reds on reds
Yall can keep them while go after the better table fare
Posted on 5/4/15 at 12:59 pm to KG6
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With reds, you stalk them and hit them in the nose with the bait.
If you hit a bonefish in the nose you've scared every fish off the flat.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:01 pm to PapaPogey
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Again, not really
I understand what you mean. I know you are fishing at birds, or structure that you have placed an educated guess as to where the fish are, or a tide/current, but ultimately it's putting the bait out there compared to targeting an individual fish. You are right that it kind of becomes an agree to disagree situation when it comes to what is more rewarding. I know it takes a skill, but I'm not as interested in that skill personally. I realize that's my opinion. This whole discussion is kind of totally an opinion.
I just get a feeling much like shooting a deer (although a little more tame) where my heart kind of sinks in my stomach when I see a big orange pumpkin floating in the black marsh water. You'll hear me let out a shout when he blows up on the bait. I don't get that excited ever on a trout
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 1:08 pm to KG6
I just think there's a huge misconception about speck fishing and the ease of it. There are about 3 months of the year where it gets pretty easy, but the rest of the year it's easy redfish to end the slump and keep up your ego. And yes this all personal opinion but it makes for interesting discussion.
ETA: my opinions are based on ~10 years of fishing Terrebonne parish.
ETA: my opinions are based on ~10 years of fishing Terrebonne parish.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 1:12 pm
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