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Suggestions on putting together an offshore bottom fishing rig Update: Craigslist special
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:34 am
Recently went snapper fishing on a charter boat and the first rod/reel they hand me was crap. The reel sounded like a bad fan belt on a 1987 oldsmobile dropping to the bottom and coming back up. I get it, they have a lot of people coming and going, so their gear isn't going to be top notch.
Wanting to get my own rig I am comfortable with, that I can keep flushed after trips, lubed up for future excursions, and rigged the way I like.
I'm not trying to break the bank with new gear, so I've been cruising pawn shops and ebay looking for used but good condition Penn (Senator or Jigmaster) reels. Do I want 3/0 , 4/0 or some other size? Any other brands to look for?
What about rods? I see a lot of Shakespeare Ugly Stik Tiger Rods. Are those cheap/easily replaceable for charter boats, or is that all I need? Any other solid but economical brands to look for?
I prefer the standard "casting" style as opposed to spinning gear, but I'm open to suggestions.
Wanting to get my own rig I am comfortable with, that I can keep flushed after trips, lubed up for future excursions, and rigged the way I like.
I'm not trying to break the bank with new gear, so I've been cruising pawn shops and ebay looking for used but good condition Penn (Senator or Jigmaster) reels. Do I want 3/0 , 4/0 or some other size? Any other brands to look for?
What about rods? I see a lot of Shakespeare Ugly Stik Tiger Rods. Are those cheap/easily replaceable for charter boats, or is that all I need? Any other solid but economical brands to look for?
I prefer the standard "casting" style as opposed to spinning gear, but I'm open to suggestions.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 9:28 pm
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Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:36 am to Clyde Tipton
Shimano tekota 600 or 700.
Tiger rod is fine.
Tiger rod is fine.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:53 am to JAB528
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Shimano tekota 600 or 700.
Tiger rod is fine.
Ditto
Posted on 7/10/18 at 12:52 pm to 34venture
Penn GTI330 reel and a 6' heavy ugly stick. 60lb power pro. This is for bottom dropping, not casting. You can find a used 330 for under $75 in very good shape.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:01 pm to fishfighter
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This is for bottom dropping, not casting.
For sure, I just didn't know what to call it other than the profile of a round reel on top of a smaller eyed (compared to a spinning rod) rod.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:42 pm to Clyde Tipton
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For sure, I just didn't know what to call it other than the profile of a round reel on top of a smaller eyed (compared to a spinning rod) rod.
If you wanna speak the lingo, when you're talking about non-spinning gear offshore, it's called "conventional tackle." Senators, etc... would be "conventional" reels.
For what you want, the Tekota 600 or 700 would be good for snapper. You could also look at 2-speed lever drag reels that'll take you up a notch and help you wench out some bigger fish. Cabela's currently has the Okuma Metaloid 2-Speed Conventional Reel for $184-$240 depending on the size. The lower gear ratio is great for grouper and big fish and the lever drag runs circles around a star drag, but you lose the level-wind so there's that.
Either way, pairing it with the tiger rod they mentioned should be fine. Spool with 50# power pro depth hunter and you're in business.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 1:49 pm to Clyde Tipton
Just use your bass stuff.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:30 pm to AlxTgr
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Just use your bass stuff.
I have a very old Lewis flipping stick that is 7'. Had rebuilt it and have a 6500 on it. That little rig can pull out some fish out a rig.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 2:41 pm to AlxTgr
We got out a little far on some rigs out of the ship channel one time looking for big trout. We turned around after I caught a small red snapper on my MH 7’ bass rod with 12 lbs test. I thought I hung the bottom until it started taking line. Actually got it in and it was no where near keeper size. Thus, I now see the need for bigger equipment.
It’s misleading though when you look at some triggers, vermillion or mangroves, but a big red snapper or grouper would spool you in a flash.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 3:02 pm to Clyde Tipton
Buying a new Mangrove reel Saturday in BR 
Posted on 7/10/18 at 4:20 pm to Clyde Tipton
A tekota 700 was my jigging rig for years.
I’ve caught just about every species of fish on my old tekota 700, outside of a yellowfin and billfish.
They hold up great and can handle big fish. Pack it with 80# spectra and you’ve got enough line to do just about anything.
I’ve caught just about every species of fish on my old tekota 700, outside of a yellowfin and billfish.
They hold up great and can handle big fish. Pack it with 80# spectra and you’ve got enough line to do just about anything.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:26 pm to JAB528
Typical, I went overboard and bought 3 rods/reels...
Penn Senator 4/0 Special
On this rod...
Penn 60
On this rod...
Penn 285
On this rod...
I know it’s older gear, but it’s all functional. Got the set on Craigslist for $150. Been housed away from saltwater in NWLA.
Penn Senator 4/0 Special
On this rod...
Penn 60
On this rod...
Penn 285
On this rod...
I know it’s older gear, but it’s all functional. Got the set on Craigslist for $150. Been housed away from saltwater in NWLA.
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:42 pm to Clyde Tipton
Man, i know nothing about that gear, but seems like a pretty good deal 
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:49 pm to Clyde Tipton
Cool finds.
Looks like in good condition, especially older stuff where "they don't make em like they used to"
I'd take them apart (carefully) and blow out any gunk and re-lube, and get to fishing
Looks like in good condition, especially older stuff where "they don't make em like they used to"
I'd take them apart (carefully) and blow out any gunk and re-lube, and get to fishing
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:52 pm to fillmoregandt
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I'd take them apart (carefully) and blow out any gunk and re-lube, and get to fishing
Id pay a guy $15 per reel, and have him break em down and clean em, and reassemble them. Because when i do it, i have to bring it to someone to fix anyway
Posted on 7/10/18 at 9:57 pm to Homey the Clown
I think so. I just searched Craigslist not expecting to find anything in NWLA but there it was. It was an old guy that said he bought all that stuff years ago, used it a couple of times, and it’s been sitting up for years.
Now it can sit in my shed for years...
Now it can sit in my shed for years...
Posted on 7/11/18 at 7:03 am to Clyde Tipton
Spool with braided line and you are good to go. Penn reels, especially the older ones, are pretty bullet proof
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