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Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1940 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

yes but that's a young cotton mouth body is like dat


Young cotton has the same body shape and short stubby tail as an adult
Posted by MasterJSchroeder
Berwick
Member since Nov 2020
1225 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:28 pm to
Im going Juvenile Cotton or Copperhead without seeing the head

...... I probable still wouldnt be able to tell the difference after.
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1717 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 1:57 pm to
Banded Grass Snake (Zoysia Banditomas). Pretty harmless when it stays on the other side of the fence. Becomes venomous when it crosses to your side.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12313 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:05 pm to
Don’t cottonmouths and copper heads have a greenish tail? I don’t see that on this one. But the color patter looks like a cottonmouth. I would definitely treat it as it were venomous.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86312 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Young cotton has the same body shape and short stubby tail as an adult
This isn't true at all. especially from the mid to rear.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12522 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 3:32 pm to
The banding in this pic looks to be identical to what is in the photo. Copperhead and Cottonmouth banding are pretty easy to tell apart IMO.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 3:54 pm to
Those pixilated bands sure make it look like a cottonmouth. That's my vote.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1827 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 4:18 pm to
Cotton.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7285 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 6:40 pm to
I think I see some dots in the dark banding (like below). No yellow tail, may be a little older cottonmouth.

If he slowly moved away I would say cottonmouth for sure.

Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:03 am to
Juvie cottonmouth 100%

btw I’m in the Everglades right now finding the big boys again…







…got a stunner of a scarlet king last night!



This post was edited on 5/31/24 at 9:10 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55810 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:35 am to
Nice!


Check out this one I saw in Gulf Breeze the other day. Thing has a creepy face in its scale color pattern.




Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6062 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 4:49 pm to
Moccasin, but not a juvenile as no green tip on the tail.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13063 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 6:21 pm to
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Thing has a creepy face in its scale color pattern


Pretty sure that's a sloth, non-venomous.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55810 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:11 am to
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4578 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:12 am to
Aren’t cottonmouths black snakes?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55810 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 1:03 pm to
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Aren’t cottonmouths black snakes?


the ones I've seen at Jean Lafitte are very dark colored, but in general they vary in color from brown to black.

this is one I saw at Jean Lafitte:
















saw these in Pensacola:



















^^^very young one-the juveniles have more pronounced, visible patterns, and are a lighter color

Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 8:59 pm to
Yep, blackest I’ve ever caught - my personal favorite - was at Jean Lafitte. Even the belly was the darkest I’ve seen.



There’s a lot of variation by region for cottons.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 9:00 pm
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