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Score one for conceal carry vs knife.

Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:40 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15175 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:40 pm
Well word around here is there was attempted robbery out our local park (prien lake park for those in LC) in which a man approached a person post jog and produced a knife and demanded money. Jogger produces pistol, robber hauls his arse outta there in a big damn hurry. Waiting for it to pop up on the news. Score one for the good guy.

Posted by Theoldgraycoat
Antarctica
Member since Sep 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:43 pm to
There was a similar story here in NC that didn't make anything but the local paper. Not entirely shocking considering NC as a whole is pretty left. Thanks for posting. Love hearing stuff like this.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17874 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10968 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:53 pm to
Should have wasted his dumbass
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32604 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:55 pm to
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Should have wasted his dumbass



this


and i have had some give me a hard time on here before for carrying while running
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47695 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

"It's a slippery slope" when it comes to the question of whether citizens who are licensed to carry guns should intervene in dangerous situations, if at all, Guglielmi said. "You have situations like this," he said, referring to the foiled Chicago robbery in which no one else was hurt. "And you have situations that end tragically. The department is not going to advocate for what people should or shouldn't do."


frick that dude
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16984 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:57 am to
My wife has an irrational fear of me getting a CCL and being around our children. It has been a minor battle.

Are there any situations where someone intervened to stop a shooter or robber and then was prosecuted? Say i see someone pull a gun and shoot someone else, i pull and shoot him, what are the odds i would be in trouble?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47695 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:10 am to
It depends on where you live. In Texas or Louisiana much less than somewhere like California, new yours, Chicago, etc.

Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12224 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:20 am to
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My wife has an irrational fear of me getting a CCL and being around our children. It has been a minor battle.


The mere presence of the firearm does not make its user more dangerous.

The reason you hear of accidental shootings involved with children is usually when another child who has never learned about firearms messes with one. Making firearms taboo only empowers the curiosity of the child. You should teach your children safety and respect of firearms under controlled conditions. And if they are ever around other kids with firearms present, you must teach them to immediately leave the area and notify an adult. That would prevent many accidental shootings.

It also sounds like your wife's issue is merely a confidence issue - she feels you two are not responsible enough to have a tool like a firearm around your kids. This can easily be solved with more firearms training for both of you, not just you. Most women have their husbands learn to shoot but they never learn themselves - it's important for both of you to be well-versed. You never know if she has to be the one to save your life in the future.

If you are in the Baton Rouge area, I would be more than happy to teach you and your wife in a private shooting lesson. If you are interested I can give you my email address.

quote:

Are there any situations where someone intervened to stop a shooter or robber and then was prosecuted?


I'm sure there have been some.

quote:

Say i see someone pull a gun and shoot someone else, i pull and shoot him, what are the odds i would be in trouble?


It's way too simple to put a blanket on it like this.

Basically, you have to hope that you are within the confines of the law and that the jury sees your use of force as justified. More information can be found on the Louisiana State Police website under "Defense of Others" in the use of lethal force doctrine.

You are not required by any sort of Good Samaritan law in Louisiana to get involved in a conflict because you are armed. It is up to the individual whether or not he/she should get involved. If you have any doubts about exactly what is happening, it's usually best to not get involved, no matter how inhumane that sounds.
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 8:23 am
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15062 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Say i see someone pull a gun and shoot someone else, i pull and shoot him, what are the odds i would be in trouble?


It is very likely that you would be involved in a civil suit even if you did nothing at all against the law. Like Bapple said if you don't know EXACTLY what is going on and you are not threatened just get the frick out of there.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5634 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:26 am to
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The reason you hear of accidental shootings involved with children is usually when another child who has never learned about firearms messes with one. Making firearms taboo only empowers the curiosity of the child. You should teach your children safety and respect of firearms under controlled conditions. And if they are ever around other kids with firearms present, you must teach them to immediately leave the area and notify an adult. That would prevent many accidental shootings.


Preached this to my son from day1.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47695 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:34 am to
quote:

It is very likely that you would be involved in a civil suit even if you did nothing at all against the law. Like Bapple said if you don't know EXACTLY what is going on and you are not threatened just get the frick out of there.


thats not true. In louisiana, and florida also, you cannot be sued in civil court unless you are convicted of a crime. Thats why trayvons parents did not bring a civil suit against zimmerman. I remember arguing this with idiots on saintsreport that couldnt grasp the fact that zimmerman was going to get off scott free after their disappointment that he wasnt convicted.

In louisiana, a guy stepped in and shot a thug that was about to beat a cop to death. The thugs family brought a civil suit against the good samaritan and caused him to lose everything due to the legal bills. Louisiana then passed the law protecting the good samaritans as long as they are not convicted of a crime.

you can read more about that case here.

LINK

louisiana immunity


LINK

mark o mara

LINK
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95483 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

If you have any doubts about exactly what is happening, it's usually best to not get involved, no matter how inhumane that sounds.


Speaking purely in general terms (I am not representing any of you, so it would be improper for me to offer anything remotely like legal advice) - and in an academic context - in Louisiana (and other jurisdictions may vary considerably) - it is permissible to exercise a person's right of self-defense for them - BUT, in making such an intervention, you bear the burden of being in error -

What do I mean by that? If you walk up on a sketchy encounter and see an individual up against the wall with a gun to his head, and you draw and blow the gunman away - just like they taught you at the CCW class - and the "gunman" turns out to be a plainclothes police officer in the process of making a lawful arrest - in strict legal terms, you may be exposed to criminal liablity up to, potentially, the death penalty (although I think it is highly unlikely under these circumstances, the mere potential would offer me great, great pause before intervening in an ambiguous situation.).

So, there's that...
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