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Roundup and briars

Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:55 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 9:55 am
Trying to kill a wild area in my yard. Roundup is killing everything but the dew-berry vines. Do I need a different chemical? Brush killer maybe?
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:09 am to
Vine-x is the most common herbicide I've heard of using to fight vines.

Round-up kills everything, but binds to the soil and creates a dead space. In six months, you'll have all kinds of thistles and vines.

Crossbow or 2,4-D are broadleaf killers that don't effect grass. However, they can volatize and end up killing other plants you didn't mean to kill.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:11 am to
2-4D is the shite IMO
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:16 am to
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volatize


What does this mean? And I dont want to look it up!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:20 am to
quote:

volatize


I may be wrong, but in this context I believe that is when a selective chemical becomes un-selective
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:28 am to
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Round-up kills everything, but binds to the soil and creates a dead space
It's a narrow strip between my camper and neighbor's fence. I want everything dead.
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:30 am to
Mix some roundup and Atrazine. Atrazine should smoke the vines and give you some residual.
Posted by bayoudude
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:30 am to
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2-4D is the shite IMO


I agree. We used to mix it with round up in a large sprayer and kill everything
Posted by TexasTiger
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:31 am to
Some offroad diesel in a sprayer...
Posted by Zeke
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:36 am to
Roundup does not binded with the soil. Roundup works though the leaves.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:36 am to
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What does this mean? And I dont want to look it up!
You're so lazy!
Volatize means when a liquid chemical transitions into the vapor phase.
This is bad b/c (as Downshift said) a selective chemical becomes un-selective. The wind can blow it anywhere. Just watch the time of day and wind. You'll be fine.
Posted by BulldawgBooster
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:37 am to
Roundup doesn't bind to the soil, it's a contact non-selective herbicide. It only kills what it's sprayed on. If you don't want it to ever grow, mix arsenal at 1/100. One gallon arsenal to 100 gallons water. You can also use Grazon, Surmont which has some residual or Milestone. These will all kill the vines and other broadleaves.
This post was edited on 5/19/11 at 10:41 am
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:39 am to
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Roundup does not binded with the soil. Roundup works though the leaves.


Correct. 2-4D will help with the vines. Won't hurt grass other than St Aug. Mix roundup and 2-4D.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:39 am to
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I want everything dead.


Dupont Hyvar x

2-4D

shot of diesel


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:42 am to
How about products I can get at Lowes?
Posted by BulldawgBooster
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:45 am to
You're going to be limited at Lowe's. You may find a 2-4,D mix, or Spectracide, which is Gramaxone. It will kill everything but it grows back. Find a co-op and tell them what you are trying to do and they can help you out.
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:46 am to
quote:

How about products I can get at Lowes?


quote:

roundup and Atrazine



I've got about a 1/2 mile of fence I keep clean as a whistle with this..
This post was edited on 5/19/11 at 10:49 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:49 am to
Will roundup alone kill the briars if I am persistant?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:49 am to
You'll have to get somebody with a license to get the nasty shite. My experience with off the shelf herbicides is limited to roundup and 2-4D. Everything else I ever fool with requires a license to purchase (and technically, to apply).
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/19/11 at 10:50 am to
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Will roundup alone kill the briars if I am persistant?



Yes. Roundup is great shite. You may need to add a surfactant though. Some vines are very oily and prevent the chemical from kicking it's arse. A surfactant (basically just a soap) will dissolve the protective oils and also help the chemical stick to the plant rather than just bouncing off.


Something else to consider though is that once you kill em, you will still have a briar patch. It'll just be a dead one. You'll have to bush hog it or something to get rid of it.
This post was edited on 5/19/11 at 10:58 am
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