re: Remington just tried to address the boycott on Facebook

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You'd think they'd understand the lesson of Smith and Wesson and the Brady law. Compared to then, we're a freaking juggernaut now. You frick over gun owners in this country now, good fricking luck with your gun company.



Im too young to remember this but great point. It damn near put them under, right?

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Yes. They were on the verge of going belly up. I mean that's Smith and MF'ing Wesson we're talking about. So if Remington thinks they're too big and bad, they will fall hard. The OB should but them at that point and relocate them at the Texas/LA/AR borders.

On the topic of leaving Blue States

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In Connecticut, where venerable gunmakers like Colt and Sturm, Ruger & Co. have been joined in the last decade or so by upstarts like Stag Arms and PTR, reform of gun laws in the wake of the Sandy Hook school shootings has left the industry feeling unwelcome. Bristol-based high-end rifle manufacturer PTR Industries announced this month via Facebook that it would be taking its 40 jobs and $50,000 weekly payroll to an unspecified new state, widely believed to be Texas. [...] AR-15 manufacturer Stag Arms could soon follow suit, along with Colt’s Manufacturing and Mossberg & Sons. The moves could cost the Nutmeg State 3,000 jobs as well as the estimated $1.75 billion in annual taxable revenues.

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too young to remember

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President Bill Clinton proposed legislation that enforced safety and design standards, such as locking devices and restrictions on magazine sizes, and limits on the sales and distribution of firearms. No marketing or advertising restrictions were put in place. Clinton had been working on gun safety for the later part of his term, so this was a huge milestone for his efforts. Current New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was the architect behind the agreement.

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Smith & Wesson voluntarily jumped on board.

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So S&W agreed to play along with this agreement and to be accountable for its enforcement by a five-member oversight commission.

Much to the company's surprise, the NRA almost immediately instigated a boycott of its products. Other gun companies looked down on S&W for giving into political persuasion, and gun advocates didn't agree with the new restrictions S&W succumbed to.

Consumers began refusing to buy S&W products and the market became flooded with used S&W goods that people wanted no part of. Gun enthusiasts saw the company as breaking solidarity with them, as a traitor and perpetrator of gun control. Consumers severely punished the firm for its disloyalty.

Needless to say, S&W was taken completely off guard by the response.

The firm experienced an immediate sales decline of nearly 40 percent in the year after its compromise.

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Thanks for the recap. I know all about it now but I am too young to remember the real world live effect that the boycott had.

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Remington just tried to address the boycott on Facebook

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This is about us flexing our economic muscle and showing these companies and politicians that if you don't support those of us that purchase your products, you can go get F$%ked.



Amen brother.

For everyone complaining of having to give up quality and a trusted American company over their principles may I suggest Savage Arms.


Located:
Savage Arms
100 Springdale Road
Westfield, MA 01085

their history makes a nice read

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Just a heads up...Mass is attempting(may have even passed by now) some pretty strict gun control in addition to their already tough gun laws...

Like they said. It almost destroyed S&W. And that was before social media.

We are not a group to be fricked over. Gun owners are not good sheep.
Guns are not about a product. Guns are about freedom.

You collaborate with the enemy, you will pay instantly these days.

This is the best list of manufacturer homes I can find. Someone please do me better.

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As a lifelong fan of Remington, I hope they eventually move. I doubt they will until they see their sales bottom out and they will. I am spreading the word to every gun enthusiast I know. I fact I have talked two people out of Remingtons in the store just before they bought them. Not only am I going to cost them my business, I'll do my best to amplify it.

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I have quit buying any remington ammo and guns for now. Its not like there are not other very good and reputable gun companies out there to shop and buy from.

Yeah they might want to take that into account.

They quit on those 1300 employees when their management was stupid enough to piss off the people that buy their products to where we'll just stop buying them outright.

Good luck keeping those jobs New Yorkers. Perhaps you shouldn't work for idiots.

guns and Ammo worst anti Gun States
March 2013
1.Washington D.C.
Apparently since it’s not a state, the Bill of Rights doesn’t apply to the District of Columbia. Until the recent Heller Supreme Court decision, residents weren’t even allowed to own guns. A permit to purchase is required, and all assault weapons and .50-caliber rifles are banned. No magazines are allowed which hold more than 10 rounds, there is no concealed or open carry, and there is no Castle Doctrine law.
2.New York
With its new state law, New York has become the most restrictive state in the nation on magazine capacity. Possession of MSRs is prohibited except for those grandfathered in. New York is a May-Issue CCW state; generally speaking, the closer you are to New York City, the less chance you have of getting one. Also, New York now has a weapons seizure law, just in case the cops think you might be up to something. 18 percent of New Yorkers are gun owners, ranking the state 45th in the nation.
3.New Jersey
Don’t move to New Jersey if you like guns, or want to own/buy one. The state requires a Firearms Purchasers Identification Card for any
firearm purchase, with a separate permit required for handguns. Magazines are limited to under 15 rounds, with only one handgun purchase allowed per permit. New Jersey is a May-Issue CCW state, but rarely issues them. MSRs could be grandfathered in, provided they were purchased before May 1, 1990, and registered before May 1 1991. Any MSR not owned before May 1, 1990, must be registered in the same manner as machine guns, and similar semi-auto rifles are not available today. Residents need a permit to buy ammo. NFA guns require a state license—good luck with that. For self-defense, retreat is required in many situations. For everybody who loves Repbulican Gov. Chris Christie, he has not even mentioned relaxing any of New Jersey’s gun laws. The state has the second lowest percentage of gun owners—12 percent—in the Union.

4.Massachusetts
Massachusetts is no friend to gun owners. It is a May-Issue CCW state, and a state license is required for buying guns or ammunition. According to the NRA-ILA, "It is unlawful to sell, transfer, or possess 'any assault weapon or a large capacity ammunition feeding device that was not otherwise lawfully possessed on September 13, 1994.'" All guns stored in the home have to be locked up. It has the third lowest percentage of gun owners of all 50 states; just 12.6 percent of residents own guns.

5.California
The subjects of California are restricted to one handgun purchase per 30 days, have to live with magazine capacity restrictions and only handguns on the “approved” list are legal for sale in the state. While CCWs are technically legal, good luck trying getting one. There are so many restrictions on MSRs that their appearance is butchered. The state has a Castle Doctrine law, but it doesn’t apply to cars or at work.

6.Hawaii
Hawaii is technically a May-Issue CCW state, but good luck trying to get one. A state permit to purchase is required to buy a handgun—some of which are prohibited. There are restrictions on assault weapons and any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds, and no Class 3/NFA weapons are allowed. The state has a Castle Doctrine law, but retreat is required outside the home. Hawaii has the lowest percentage of gun owners—6.7 percent—of all the states.

7.Connecticut
While officially a May-Issue CCW state, Connecticut is a Shall-Issue state in practice—with a lot of requirements. An eligibility certificate is required to purchase a pistol. There are a number of restrictions on MSRs based on features—MSRs may be possessed provided they were purchased before Oct. 1, 1993, and the owner received a certificate of possession from the Connecticut State Police before July 1994, according to the NRA-ILA. As far as machine guns are concerned, the NRA writes, "It is lawful to possess a machine gun in compliance with federal law, provided annual registration takes place with the state police." The state has a Castle Doctrine law that applies to residences. Connecticut is one of only a few states that has a law allowing for seizure of your weapons if the police just think you’re a danger to yourself or others, and may keep the gun for up to a year. There are also plenty of laws circulating in local and state legislatures about guns due to the Sandy Hook shooting.

8.Illinois
As bad a reputation Illinois gets from gun owners—mostly due to Chicago—there are a lot of states that are worse. A FOID (Firearm Owner Identification) card is required to buy and/or own a gun. MSRs and standard capacity magazines are legal as long as you’re not in Chicago or Cook County. As far as Class 3/NFA weapons are concerned, AOWs are allowed, and as of Jan. 1, 2013, short-barreled rifles are allowed with a Curio and Relic (C&R) FFL. Illinois is currently the only state in the Union with no provision for concealed carry, though a recent court decision could change that this summer. Illinois has a Castle Doctrine with specific laws that prevent lawsuits being filed against a defender of dwelling, and no requirement for retreat.

9.Maryland
Maryland is a May-Issue CCW state and has banned certain “assault pistols.” Magazines that hold more than 20 rounds can’t be manufactured or sold, but they can be possessed. Only handguns on the official register can be sold in the state, residents can only buy one gun a month, and Prince George County just banned gun shows. The state has a Castle Doctrine law, but invitees or guests may have a duty to retreat.

10.Rhode Island
Rhode Island is (in effect) a May-Issue CCW state, but most jurisdictions won’t issue them without a specific “need.” All buyers must first pass a state safety exam. Rhode Island’s Castle Doctrine is limited to the inside of a dwelling or a chicken coop, with no duty to retreat. NFA weapons not allowed, but there are no restrictions on MSRs or magazine capacity. In addition, 12.8 percent of residents are gun owners, placing Rhode Island 47th in the nation in gun ownership.

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So after we finish with Remington, we need to work on other manufacturers within the top ten worst states...