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Questions about Florida's growing python population problem.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:07 pm
How far north will they probably expand? Are Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana invasions likely? When these pythons have essentially wiped out their food sources, will they die off? Will the gator population crash as well due to the lack of prey? Why doesn't Florida just declare open season on these pythons wherever they are found? News link today on pythons now being found in the Everglades: LINK
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:21 pm to BFIV
They have declared open season on them. They reproduce at massive rates and are not easy to catch in large numbers in the Everglades.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:26 pm to Marlo Stanfield
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not easy to catch in large numbers in the Everglades.
Don't try to catch them. Just shoot them on sight? Give the remaining gators and buzzards something to eat.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:52 pm to BFIV
Anyplace that gets regular yearly freezes is not going to get established with the pythons found in the everglades.
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:57 pm to BFIV
If they cross into Louisiana they will end up in a roux….
Posted on 3/20/23 at 10:58 pm to armsdealer
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Anyplace that gets regular yearly freezes is not going to get established with the pythons found in the everglades.
I wondered about that, but...cotton mouths are found as far north as Virginia Beach in the Great Dismal Swamp which gets regular yearly freezes. If cotton mouths can survive from the Everglades to the Great Dismal Swamp, it seems possible that pythons could, also?
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:06 pm to BFIV
Yeah, those Pythons want no part of Cajuns…that’s how Roux’s get started
Posted on 3/20/23 at 11:40 pm to BFIV
Shooting them won’t move the needle with them either. Has it worked with wild hogs and coyotes?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 12:42 am to BFIV
Posted on 3/21/23 at 4:57 am to CamdenTiger
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Yeah, those Pythons want no part of Cajuns…that’s how Roux’s get started
Yep...and python seat covers for the SXS.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:46 am to DMAN1968
Pretty sure they don’t really go north of like Orlando because of the cold. I know some other snakes do, but the cold seems to affect them more then resident snakes.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:53 am to baldona
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cold seems to affect them more then resident snakes
How many generations allows for this to change? Mother Nature can be an allowing bitch sometimes.
I really do not like snakes, FTR.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:14 am to BFIV
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:17 am to Lonnie Utah
And all it takes is a click on the link to see what BS this map is.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:27 am to Lonnie Utah
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Here's your answer.
Sorta left this part out
"Projected climate in the continental United States in the year 2100, based on global warming models, that matches climate in the pythons' native range in Asia."
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:29 am to SloaneRanger
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And all it takes is a click on the link to see what BS this map is.
It's a theoretic range map of these snakes based on one factor, temperature (the easiest data source to pull over such a large scale). So you're position is that a map that shows the minimum temperature for area's of the United States and nothing else is BS? That's a bit of a stretch. Before you impugn something, You have interpret what it's actually saying.
However, anyone who knows anything about biology and an organism's ecological niche knows that there are multiple factors that controls a species distribution and range. It's the N-dimensional hyperspace that Hutchinson talked about in the 1950's. Just because you don't like the politics of an organization, doesn't make something untrue. If you don't like the "climate change" part of it, shift the map south a bit. The bottom line is the potential habitat for this snake based on temperature alone is pretty big and should concern most people.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 7:51 am
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:29 am to Barneyrb
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Sorta left this part out
I assumed everyone here could read.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:50 am to Lonnie Utah
This map is the equivalent of people saying 30 years ago that the Maldives would be gone by now and that by 2015 there would be no more summer sea ice in the Arctic. I’ll just pay no attention to it if that’s ok with you.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:53 am to Lonnie Utah
I'll take that map about as seriously as I take DiCaprio buying beach front property and claiming a 6 ft sea level rise in 5 years.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:02 am to Screaming Viking
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How many generations allows for this to change? Mother Nature can be an allowing bitch sometimes.
There was a big freeze in Florida around fifteen to twenty years ago. All the way to the Keys. It killed a lot of pythons. The ones that survived did so by getting into limestone rock piles. The sun kept the piles warm enough to survive. Does this get passed on to future generations?
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