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re: Pinewood Derby?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 12:05 pm to Hermit Crab
Posted on 3/7/19 at 12:05 pm to Hermit Crab
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I don’t care about the legality of the body kit, I think the kid should be getting blisters from sanding and then painting his own car rather than gluing a piece of plastics and putting on some stickers.
Did you mist the part where I said he sawed his dad's finger?
Who gets blisters anymore when we have orbital mouse sanders? You've obviously never worked with these cars before because they are just about the softest pine I've ever seen. Breathe on it hard and it takes off 0.01". And just because you can't see the block, doesn't mean he didn't do any work on it. He did have to cut it down and shape it so the body would fit on it. You state you favor the old fashioned way of painting and sanding. Here are the things he done in addition to paint and sand paper.
He's put tons of time in on the cordless drill polishing axles. This is his first real experience with power tools.
We've worked on the computer graphics (nothing fancy just MS Paint). We had to find the right files and size them and resize them and finally print then on the right decal paper. He worked really hard getting our decals to line up right on the car. We had a lot of test prints on regular paper that he had to cut out and line up by hand to see if they were the right size. Putting on the decals was his favorite part. He called the water slide decals "magic".
He's learned electronics and soldering hooking up the sound board. That includes learning about voltage and polarity. How many 7 year old do you know that can work a soldering iron (and not burn their house down)?
He's learned how to put together sound files on to put sound effects and songs on the MP3 player.
We've learned about kinetic energy and rotational energy in doing our wheel "spin tests". We time tested every wheel with every axle to find our best matched pair. We logged all the data in excel.
You might not like it, but here's the deal, in plastic body serves a very important function in this case. It serves as a resonator for the laptop speakers we embedded in the wood body of the car. In reality, the large profile of this body will make our car slower. (For every 0.1 inch of body exposed to the air, you lose approx 0.06 sec over a 30' pinewood derby track). With the extra exposed greenhouse area of the car, we've actually added to the cross sectional area of the vehicle, which equates to slower speed.
So that's fine. Throw a 7 year old under the bus for using a "short cut". But don't look at all the other work he did and all the other skills he learned beyond sanding and painting.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 12:52 pm to Lonnie Utah
All good Utah, that's just a bit of projecting from jealous father's that likely don't have the time or desire to complete a project with their children. Actually teaching them along the way and not just doing the project for them. Its quite the past time for many on TD to throw negative comments around in an attempt to be funny or gain acceptance. I had a similar incident when my 7th grader asked for help on a model of the digestive system. I helped her of course, but she did the work and came up with some great ideas that ended with a excellent "working" model. Teacher told her "no way you did that alone". I almost lost my sh!t but then I remind myself that not everyone on this planet can succeed...
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:00 pm to mooseofterror
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Teacher told her "no way you did that alone". I almost lost my sh!t but then I remind myself that not everyone on this planet can succeed...
We had the same thing on a transportation project in kindergarten. Our kid was REALLY into trains back then and we built a H.O. layout in our basement. We took the leftovers from the layout and made a mini train layout. It looked awesome. But the teacher said there was no way he could have done it. The thing is, with the right materials, it was really quite easy. It was mixing up paper mache/plaster cloth, painting on water downed acrylic paints, gluing down some of our left over track and sprinkling on "ground cover" (fine ground up foam"). It was all smoke and mirrors, but to the untrained eye, it looked better than it was hard.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:06 pm to Higgysmalls
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Pinewood Derby?
Make sure it runs straight. That is one of the biggest issues. If it drifts to either side you are done
Wrong, you want the car to rail ride, it needs to drift to one side just a little bit so it rides the rail all the way down. A straight car will bounce off the walls all the way down and slow down the car much more than a rail rider.
Watch that Mark Rober video posted earlier in the thread. He goes into all the things people do to win legally, just missed the part where you put something lightly adhesive on the nose and try to get away with it.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:23 pm to Lonnie Utah
You can probably find an old box fan and mount it in the end of a long cardboard box then throw baby powder into the fan and use it for a wind tunnel to see where the body needs adjusting.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:25 pm to Dam Guide
I hear running a car so that one of the front wheels doesn't touch the track makes em pretty fast.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:27 pm to Lonnie Utah
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bought a preformed car body, it's plastic and slides over a cutdown version of the pinewood block
What the frick!
This is what is wrong with today.
Why don't you just order a pre-made car?Haven't looked but I'm sure there's a website for that.
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Anyone here every built one with their kids?
Kinda....I showed him how. Just like my Dad did when I was a kid. He SHOWED me what to do and I did it.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:27 pm to zatetic
This reminds me of the time in high school I made a mouse trap car that went 1. faster than anyone else’s by far and 2. Went clear across the gym
My physics teacher was so tickled
My physics teacher was so tickled
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:36 pm to Boudreaux35
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What the frick!
This is what is wrong with today
I guess you missed this part.
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You might not like it, but here's the deal, in plastic body serves a very important function in this case. It serves as a resonator for the laptop speakers we embedded in the wood body of the car.
I can't believe that everyone is tweaked about the car body, but not tweaked that we wired the car for sound. lol.
Worst case is if the judges DQ the car because of the body, we pull it off. It will attach via velcro.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:45 pm to highcotton2
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You can probably find an old box fan and mount it in the end of a long cardboard box then throw baby powder into the fan and use it for a wind tunnel to see where the body needs adjusting.
I know your post is a dig, but I actually thought about building a wind tunnel just to see how the air traveled over the car. My brother built one as his high school science fair project....
And dry ice is what you use in them, not baby powder.
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 3/7/19 at 1:55 pm to Lonnie Utah
GREENHOUSE???????????????? Bet you're one of them tree huggers like occasional cortex
Some can't see the whole picture Lonnie, you are building a well rounded car and kid at the same time
Some can't see the whole picture Lonnie, you are building a well rounded car and kid at the same time
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:13 pm to zatetic
quote:My kid had one where the front wheels barely touched the track. It won every heat. Scouts was a pain in the arse after awhile. It seemed like every weekend there was something going on. The dumb leaders decided to change meetings to 7:30 on a Monday night, that was the end of that
hear running a car so that one of the front wheels doesn't touch the track makes em pretty fast.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 2:50 pm to Lonnie Utah
We had a league in NOLA last year at Second Line Brewery. I haven’t heard anything about the league this year.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:45 pm to Lonnie Utah
This was my son's car last year. It looks much harder to build than it was. He told me what he wanted to build I sketched it up and made blue prints with steps he could follow. He did 98% of the shaping. I did some Bondo work and cut out and fit the spoiler and 75% of the work glueing the fenders on and lined up correctly. Mom printed the decals. Son spray painted 2 coats. And applied decals and did the windows himself. His car this year was even more realistic as he 3d printed a Supra MK4 body. I'll upload a picture of it later.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 7:25 am to Lonnie Utah
The main thing is not to lose to a girl, that would suck for your son.
Posted on 3/8/19 at 8:09 am to Lonnie Utah
They FINALLY e-mailed us the "official" pack rules last night. (I asked for them over 2 weeks ago.)
We might be illegal. However, there is some conflict in the way the rules are written. Looking for a clarification.
It depends on what the judges define as "body". I'm calling the shell a "decoration". Either way, I'm going by the scout store today to buy a 2nd car. We'll take both with us. If our primary car fails tech, we'll roll out the backup car...
Did I mention his favorite driver was Kevin Harvick?
Edit: We just got the ruling. We're good to go....
We might be illegal. However, there is some conflict in the way the rules are written. Looking for a clarification.
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G. Body
i The Body of the car must be made of wood.
1 All chassis made from metal or plastic are prohibited
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15 - Other Items - Details such as steering wheel, driver, paint, decorations and decals are permissible as long as these details do not exceed the width, length, height, clearance and weight specifications. All details must be securely attached to the car.
It depends on what the judges define as "body". I'm calling the shell a "decoration". Either way, I'm going by the scout store today to buy a 2nd car. We'll take both with us. If our primary car fails tech, we'll roll out the backup car...
Did I mention his favorite driver was Kevin Harvick?
Edit: We just got the ruling. We're good to go....
This post was edited on 3/8/19 at 9:26 am
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:37 am to celltech1981
So it's that time of year again. We've already "finished" this years car. Some of you may remember last year's "talking" car that we built (and gave us crap for it! ).
This year, we've put a small micro controller (an arduino pro mini) on it and use it to run a strip of programmable LED's. We downloaded a light program for it than customized it. He wrote many of the custom pallets himself.
It was quite the challenge to make everything fit, and keep it underweight. The hardest part was choosing the right battery. We ended up using a small lithium ion battery the was made for a micro drone. It runs for about 3-4 hours on the current battery. Here's a quick video of the prototype (I'll get a shot of the finished car tonight when I get home).
LINK
But we'll see how she runs on raceday...
This is (basically) the battery we used (another brand).
We're also building a homemade test track this year that has electronic timing and scoring.
This year, we've put a small micro controller (an arduino pro mini) on it and use it to run a strip of programmable LED's. We downloaded a light program for it than customized it. He wrote many of the custom pallets himself.
It was quite the challenge to make everything fit, and keep it underweight. The hardest part was choosing the right battery. We ended up using a small lithium ion battery the was made for a micro drone. It runs for about 3-4 hours on the current battery. Here's a quick video of the prototype (I'll get a shot of the finished car tonight when I get home).
LINK
But we'll see how she runs on raceday...
This is (basically) the battery we used (another brand).
We're also building a homemade test track this year that has electronic timing and scoring.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 9:00 am
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