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re: Petition to make all tidal waters open to public
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:07 pm to JamalSanders
Posted on 1/28/17 at 2:07 pm to JamalSanders
I think it's dumb to allow someone to enter another's property simply because they can do it by water.
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Posted on 1/28/17 at 3:50 pm to AlxTgr
Individuals who coose to own land bordered by free flowing water should do so with a mindset that boats will at times float through. Floating through should not be or ever have been viewed as "entering".
Posted on 1/28/17 at 4:12 pm to Dock Holiday
If it's not a true traveled on and navigable water way, then feel free to put up a gate. No reason for anyone to need to travel down a dead end pipeline canal. And don't give me the fishing BS excuse. There are only a bazillion places to fish in south Louisiana not blocked off by gates.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 4:37 pm to crazycubes
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And don't give me the fishing BS excuse
Uh?
Posted on 1/28/17 at 4:48 pm to AlxTgr
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I think it's dumb to allow someone to enter another's property simply because they can do it by water.
Wasn't there a thread about 4 wheelers running down creeks because it was legal?
Seem to remember something like that, anyone?
Posted on 1/28/17 at 6:57 pm to rballa19
Change.org?
Isn't that some hippy liberal site?
May as well sign the petition to have Trump impeached. Both should happen at the same time.
Isn't that some hippy liberal site?
May as well sign the petition to have Trump impeached. Both should happen at the same time.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Actually you do not. We have heard from both private "land owner" who have water in the marsh and from small lease holders how have all been kept out of their property because they are not allowed access under the current law.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:18 pm to wickowick
Np the Public Trust Doctrine specifically states that all water belongs to all of the CITIZENS of the land however you are have a right of use of that water. This big issue here is that everyone keeps referring to "land" this issue is not about land it is about our ebbing and flowing water. So your pond is safe because you "own" the "land" around it, one would have to trespass to access it.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:22 pm to Nado Jenkins83
That's happening right now. People in the Dulac area have leases that they can only access through a pipeline canal. The oil company has submitted an application to the Corp of Engineers to place 22 gates along this "pipeline canal" that would block access. The lease holders in the area are crying foul because they will not longer be able to access the very areas that they have leased UNLESS they use an airboat and "trespass" on someones "land"
Posted on 1/28/17 at 7:52 pm to Dock Holiday
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Individuals who coose to own land bordered by free flowing water should do so with a mindset that boats will at times float through
No they should not, especially since our law classifies the people in the boats as trespassers. It's really odd how delusional you are on this issue.
Posted on 1/28/17 at 8:43 pm to AlxTgr
It's really odd how Louisiana is the only state with laws like this. Why not make it like the rest of the country?
Posted on 1/28/17 at 9:51 pm to AlxTgr
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really odd how delusional you are on this issue.
Really odd you think I'm delusional. I may be a lot of things, but delusional is not one of them on this issue. I see clearly, but I belive you choose not to see how things can change... change to ways similar to other costal states.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 3:49 am to rballa19
quote:People keep saying this. I have no idea if it's true. Besides, this whole issue is due to the marsh. La. is different in many ways from other coastal states. Really hard to compare.
It's really odd how Louisiana is the only state with laws like this
quote:Not sure what exactly you mean, but think of it this way. Currently, these waters are privately owned. If those waters are made public, there has been a taking of property simply because people want to fish. That might be the most selfish thing I've ever heard of.
Why not make it like the rest of the country?
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 4:07 am
Posted on 1/29/17 at 3:52 am to Dock Holiday
quote:The delusional don't know they are delusional.
Really odd you think I'm delusional.
quote:I have never said things can't change.
but I belive you choose not to see how things can change...
Posted on 1/29/17 at 6:39 am to Larry Gooseman
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TX allows everything below mean high tide open to the public.
I think Louisiana is the only state that doesn't.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 8:30 am to AlxTgr
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Besides, this whole issue is due to the marsh. La. is different in many ways from other coastal states. Really hard to compare.
So your stance is because we have more marsh, are getting hit with erosion and subsidence, and have allowed massive amounts of canals to be dug in said marsh we should have different and exclusive access laws than eveyone?
Laws that are insanely hard to enforce, and are being enforced selectively. Laws that ensure nearly everyone who traverses the marsh any distance is a tresspasser. Making good people out to be criminals just by bringing his family and friends out and about.
That Louisiana? That is the one we should just say is different and keep the status quo?
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 8:37 am
Posted on 1/29/17 at 9:40 am to Dock Holiday
Man, your desire to trespass is beyond my comprehension.
Posted on 1/29/17 at 10:01 am to AlxTgr
The overwhelming majority of conversation on this is about the marsh. But there are many who are bringing this into the same argument as back waters well north, and the "rights" of fishermen to access water over property during floods (fishermen, crawfishermen, etc). That's a shite ton more tricky, and I'd bet if someone owned property on the water, they'd feel pretty strongly about not wanting someone to park a boat outside their bedroom window after a hard rain.
On another note...I wonder how many folks would change their tune on this if the landowners were offering fishing leases and they were the recipient of one of those leases. I bet they'd be perfectly fine with their own little piece of paradise.
On another note...I wonder how many folks would change their tune on this if the landowners were offering fishing leases and they were the recipient of one of those leases.
I bet they'd be perfectly fine with their own little piece of paradise. Posted on 1/29/17 at 10:07 am to Fratigerguy
I agree. There are five or six different arguments going on at the same time but lumped together.
Some people are gating off natural bayous and that is not right. That being said, there is nothing wrong with gating off a man made canal that is surrounded by and dead ends into your marsh
The whole "it's tidal waters" doesn't fly here It was man made
Some people are gating off natural bayous and that is not right. That being said, there is nothing wrong with gating off a man made canal that is surrounded by and dead ends into your marsh
The whole "it's tidal waters" doesn't fly here It was man made
Posted on 1/29/17 at 10:23 am to dat yat
Son you spend thousands of dollars on a blind and a fisherman can come anchor or troll right next to you during your hunt? Duck that
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