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re: Opinions form 6.5 Creedmoor whitetail hunters (others opinions welcomed)
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:45 pm to FrankDrebin
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:45 pm to FrankDrebin
quote:
I personally don’t understand why most of us men seem to think we need 150+gr. Bullets out of a 30/06, 300win mag, 7mm mag. when we let our children shoot deer with 100gr. 243’s.
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:48 pm to kengel2
Most deer hunters have no idea that changing barrel twist changes what weight bullets you can shoot. They just buy a gun, buy some cheap ammo and hunt with whatever shoots decent enough. Theres nothing wrong with that, I just dont think the 260 failed due to factory twist rates. IMO It failed because it came out when belted mags were all the rage, and modern deer started needing to be shot with 7 mags and 300s
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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modern deer started needing to be shot with 7 mags and 300s
Because they needed to be deader.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:58 pm to ducksnbass
I've been using a 6.5 grendel and 6.8spc.
son shot two does with them and they dropped right there both times.
son shot two does with them and they dropped right there both times.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:01 pm to bbvdd
all you hipsters shooting hipster rounds smdh
thirty awt six by god was good enough for pappy to kill fitty men and is good enough for me to kill bambi
thirty awt six by god was good enough for pappy to kill fitty men and is good enough for me to kill bambi
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:11 pm to FrankDrebin
quote:Longer shots than the childern is one reason IMO.
I personally don’t understand why most of us men seem to think we need 150+gr. Bullets out of a 30/06, 300win mag, 7mm mag. when we let our children shoot deer with 100gr. 243’s.
FWIW, I'm currently shooting 130gr SST's in a .270. I've killed hogs with the 130 and 165gr SST in a .30-06 - they're a pretty mean bullet and are accurate in my rifles - a 700 Rem and 70 Win, res.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:15 pm to White Bear
in all seriousness I shoot 168gr out of my .308 because it has the best ballistics for my rate of twist.
yes I know it probably doesnt matter but it makes me happy
yes I know it probably doesnt matter but it makes me happy
Posted on 1/3/20 at 2:16 pm to Tiguar
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thirty awt six by god was good enough for pappy to kill fitty men and is good enough for me to kill bambi
dead is dead.
And I have a couple of .308 that I really like as well.
I like to keep my options open...
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 1/3/20 at 3:45 pm to Tiguar
quote:
thirty awt six
It's difficult to find a logical reason to shoot anything else.
Same can be said for .308 and .270
The one exception is .35 caliber single shots to take advantage of primitive (
) seasons
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:15 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
260 failed because Remington sucked with timing and marketing. Winchester always trumped them in both.
They released 260 to rival a 270 Win, not gonna happen. Then Win dropped the 264 Mag on em and they shelved it.
260 is a great round, just done by the wrong company.
Remington has done to two rounds correctly, 7 Mag and 300 RUM.
They released 260 to rival a 270 Win, not gonna happen. Then Win dropped the 264 Mag on em and they shelved it.
260 is a great round, just done by the wrong company.
Remington has done to two rounds correctly, 7 Mag and 300 RUM.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:22 pm to FrankDrebin
Only reason to shoot a 129 gr out of CM is if your 4 year old needs to shoot it. 140 gr should be perfect for an 8 yr old plus
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:55 pm to Sparetime
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Remington has done to two rounds correctly, 7 Mag and 300 RUM.
I think you’re confusing the 260 with the 6.5 mag. The 260 didn’t come out til the’90’s.
Also Remington released the 7-08. It started slow but I’d say it’s doing great now. I think Remington was also responsible for making the 257 bob and the 25-06 legitimate factory chamberings. Though I’ve read some gun writers complain that Remington flopped on the Roberts, with lower velocity than it should have achieved.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:29 pm to upgrade
You're right. I was thinking of the 280 Rem. Thanks for straightening me out.
You also right on the 25-06, but they still didn't take it to where it belongs as an extremely effective light game load with marketing.
They tried to copy the Bob but screwed it up. Ackley and Roy Wby both thought their 257 loads were the best hunting loads they designed. I agree and my next rifle will be a 257 WBY, it's a rocket of load.
Next would be a 300 RUM. 257 WBY, 270 WIN, 300 RUM.... light, medium, heavy are covered.
You also right on the 25-06, but they still didn't take it to where it belongs as an extremely effective light game load with marketing.
They tried to copy the Bob but screwed it up. Ackley and Roy Wby both thought their 257 loads were the best hunting loads they designed. I agree and my next rifle will be a 257 WBY, it's a rocket of load.
Next would be a 300 RUM. 257 WBY, 270 WIN, 300 RUM.... light, medium, heavy are covered.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:35 pm to Tiguar
Agree 100%.
CM does have it's place because it has lower recoil, but it's a rifle and it's gonna kick.
CM does have it's place because it has lower recoil, but it's a rifle and it's gonna kick.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:05 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Downshiftandfoorit is absolutely correct a 6.5 is only made for soft bullets because off the slow velocity. If you want consistent pass through shots with 5 gallon buckets of blood trails to follow then get a rifle that shoots a Barnes bullet above 3500fps!
Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:30 am to Yazoobucks
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Downshiftandfoorit is absolutely correct a 6.5 is only made for soft bullets because off the slow velocity.
True, but that also makes the 260 Rem and 6.5 CM effective using the same bullets as the Swede since all 3 operate in the same velocity range (when using modern loads for the Swede).
Posted on 1/4/20 at 12:04 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
I bought my 12 yr old son a ruger American predator in 6.5 creedmoor for Christmas. Gonna use 120 grain nosler ballistic tips. Also added a mpa muzzle brake supposed to reduce recoil by 40% we shall see. The damn brake was 1/3 price of the rifle.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/4/20 at 12:53 pm to Sparetime
quote:
Only reason to shoot a 129 gr out of CM is if your 4 year old needs to shoot it. 140 gr should be perfect for an 8 yr old plus
Wrong.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:44 pm to ducksnbass
quote:
I personally don’t understand why most of us men seem to think we need 150+gr. Bullets out of a 30/06, 300win mag, 7mm mag. when we let our children shoot deer with 100gr. 243’s.
Because a kid lining up a nanny at 65 yards broadside and perfectly still with 100 yards of grass between her and the nearest thicket provides a lot more margin for error than the mature buck with one thing on his mind crossing 250 yards down a power line with walls of cutover on each side I’m trying to kill.
To each his own, I hunt with everything from 6mm rem to 35 whelen, but in the same way you don’t think anyone needs more than 100 grain bullets I’m equally baffled at why anyone would leave a heavier bullet on the table if they can put it in the same spot.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 10:03 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
I've killed three with my 6.5CM. All does in the 130-150 pound range. I'm shooting 143 ELD-X. All three have been good shots right behind the shoulder. 1 has dropped, and two ran 20-30 yards. On the ones that ran, blood trail was massive. One was through the heart, so I guess it's to be expected.
I hunt delta and hills in MS. One doe was killed at 180 yards. The other two were killed at 40-50. Pass throughs on all 3 with massive internal damage.
Needless to say, I do not have any complaints with mine. It's done exactly what I wanted. Been shooting a .35 Whelen exclusively since the bolt gun I grew up shooting was stolen, and wanted something with more range and light recoil for the longer shots I have in the Delta.
I hunt delta and hills in MS. One doe was killed at 180 yards. The other two were killed at 40-50. Pass throughs on all 3 with massive internal damage.
Needless to say, I do not have any complaints with mine. It's done exactly what I wanted. Been shooting a .35 Whelen exclusively since the bolt gun I grew up shooting was stolen, and wanted something with more range and light recoil for the longer shots I have in the Delta.
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