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Oil bath hub issue- update and question
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:41 am
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:41 am
I just had brakes reworked on the trailer. These are my first non-grease hubs. It's not been long since this was done.
One side has a slow leak, and the stuff that came out was discolored. Hub was very hot. Even the other side was somewhat hot.
So,
Do I limp into the shop ASAP, or can I find the right oil and refill to make a few trips?
One side has a slow leak, and the stuff that came out was discolored. Hub was very hot. Even the other side was somewhat hot.
So,
Do I limp into the shop ASAP, or can I find the right oil and refill to make a few trips?
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 7:52 pm
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Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:44 am to AlxTgr
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This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 7:45 am
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:52 am to AlxTgr
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Hub was very hot.
Game over. Jack that side up and spin the tire. If it's making a grinding noise you are going to have to replace bearings and races.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:53 am to FrenchJoe
Thanks. Can I make it 3 miles to shop?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:04 am to AlxTgr
Alex, sounds like you have no choice but to drive slowly to the shop. No way to get any oil/grease into that hub?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:07 am to FrenchJoe
It's got that allen nut that is used for refill. I suppose it would not hurt to find some oil and refill for the trip. I've vever done it before, but it doesn't look that hard. I'll check youtube.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:11 am to AlxTgr
Are you stranded on the side of the road or still at the house?
I've never had oil bath hubs. I've finally got my leaking seal problem solved (I hope) on regular grease lubricated hubs.
I've never had oil bath hubs. I've finally got my leaking seal problem solved (I hope) on regular grease lubricated hubs.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:15 am to FrenchJoe
At home. I noticed it when I got home from fishing yesterday.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:34 am to AlxTgr
Drain it, fill it up with gear oil, and take it to the shop. Im not familiar with how those things are made but as long as you arent dunking it in the water it'll be fine assuming it takes longer for all the oil to leak out than it takes to get to the shop.
The oil that came out was probably discolored from having water in it. I'd get new bearings just to be safe. Would suck seriously to leave it on the side of the road with exploded bearings.
The oil that came out was probably discolored from having water in it. I'd get new bearings just to be safe. Would suck seriously to leave it on the side of the road with exploded bearings.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:11 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Wonder if the bearings are rurnt?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:17 am to AlxTgr
Probably not, but I wouldn't chance it. Changing bearings on the side of the road is a miserable experience.
Jack it up and spin the tire and see if it sounds/feels like it's about to blow up.
I'd have to do away with the oil bath hubs. They seem to be troublesome.
Jack it up and spin the tire and see if it sounds/feels like it's about to blow up.
I'd have to do away with the oil bath hubs. They seem to be troublesome.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:21 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
My afternoon project.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:42 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I'd have to do away with the oil bath hubs. They seem to be troublesome.
Dude I worked with a few summer ago bought a ranger with oil bath hubs and changed them because he didn't like them...it ended up being a huge PITA switching them to normal hubs IIRC
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:48 am to Boats n Hose
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it ended up being a huge PITA switching them to normal hubs IIRC
Wouldn't have thought that, but I'm not familiar with how oil bath hubs are put together at all.
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:51 am to Boats n Hose
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it ended up being a huge PITA switching them to normal hubs IIRC
I'd rather change them now than deal with them on the side of the road. imo
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:58 am to Nascar Fan
Most instructions say to remove the wheel. If I can drain from that hole without doing that, is there any reason to remove the wheel?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 11:59 am to Nascar Fan
No doubt, I'm just saying it seems like it would be straightforward but he ended up having a few issues...can't remember what exactly though. May depend on the bearing though. I think he initially wanted I just remove the oil, put grease and put a buddy bearing cap on it, but eventually had to get new bearings and there was some other snag he hit too. It worked though, he's had the boat for a few years with no bearing trouble
Posted on 5/6/12 at 12:04 pm to AlxTgr
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Most instructions say to remove the wheel. If I can drain from that hole without doing that, is there any reason to remove the wheel?
What is your plan? Are you gonna change the bearings, change the oil in them or take it to the shop?
Posted on 5/6/12 at 12:08 pm to AlxTgr
Are the caps plastic or metal?
If plastic, replace them for sure. Our jet ski trailer came with plastic ones. Never an issue until last summer when I towed them to Florida and back. After replacing one tire on the way back, the other started egging/wobbling, so I had to change it in the Slidell Wal-Mart parking lot...when I took the rim off the axle, it hit the plastic cap and broke it clean off...effectively leaving me stranded since it's not a part you can just go buy at Wal-Mart to replace.
Longish story short, the dealership we bought the jet skis from knew about the shite plastic ones and had some metal caps...picked up two of them and they recommended using gear oil (forgot the weight) to refill them with. You can either use the hole for the allen wrench (kind of hard to get to), or do like I did and refill the cap...and then hurry and twist it back on really fast so not much leaks out (the metal caps have an O-ring, so the second you put the cap on, it seals to the hub...just have to spin it on tight to finish the job).
ETA: We didn't change the hub(s) either. Trailer is fine.
This is what we replaced the plastic one with, fwiw:
If plastic, replace them for sure. Our jet ski trailer came with plastic ones. Never an issue until last summer when I towed them to Florida and back. After replacing one tire on the way back, the other started egging/wobbling, so I had to change it in the Slidell Wal-Mart parking lot...when I took the rim off the axle, it hit the plastic cap and broke it clean off...effectively leaving me stranded since it's not a part you can just go buy at Wal-Mart to replace.
Longish story short, the dealership we bought the jet skis from knew about the shite plastic ones and had some metal caps...picked up two of them and they recommended using gear oil (forgot the weight) to refill them with. You can either use the hole for the allen wrench (kind of hard to get to), or do like I did and refill the cap...and then hurry and twist it back on really fast so not much leaks out (the metal caps have an O-ring, so the second you put the cap on, it seals to the hub...just have to spin it on tight to finish the job).
ETA: We didn't change the hub(s) either. Trailer is fine.
This is what we replaced the plastic one with, fwiw:
This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/6/12 at 12:38 pm to AlxTgr
I wouldn't drive anywhere without lube on bearings. They will become welded to the race and axle if they get very hot.
Put the thickest gear oil you can find in it. Drive slow and check temp often.
Eta- pack the bearings with grease if you really need to get down the road. There are some greases that will work in that application. I had a bush hog that had a leaking gear box. Put some grease in it and it lasted years like that. I wouldn't use that as a permanent solution in your case. By it will get you down the road if you really need to.
Put the thickest gear oil you can find in it. Drive slow and check temp often.
Eta- pack the bearings with grease if you really need to get down the road. There are some greases that will work in that application. I had a bush hog that had a leaking gear box. Put some grease in it and it lasted years like that. I wouldn't use that as a permanent solution in your case. By it will get you down the road if you really need to.
This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 12:43 pm
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