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re: Official AR-15 thread

Posted on 2/18/16 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 2:55 pm to
Aero Precision is notorious for that.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:03 pm to
As far as my other question if I get a mid length vs carbine length gas system in a complete upper is there any advantage to either?
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

As far as my other question if I get a mid length vs carbine length gas system in a complete upper is there any advantage to either?


My first build was carbine length and I went with mid length on the 2nd build. The mid length gas system will allow the bullet to travel slightly faster which will technically increase accuracy at distance. I rarely shoot farther than 200 yards and haven't found any perceivable differences in trajectory. Overall, I would go with mid length just because you can and because it won't cost any more. If you ever decide to shoot at long distances it might be worth it.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:12 pm to
Prop...


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Is this yours you made? Who machines your stuff?
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:30 pm to
Yes I manufacture those uppers in house. Parts come from industry OEMs or are machined on contract to exacting standards. All parts are USA made.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:34 pm to
Are the barrels quality? Are they 1:7? It's a good price point for me.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:36 pm to
I can't tell from the pictures is there any branding on the upper? On thing I dislike is gaudy branding.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
26119 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:43 pm to
I have swapped out the pistol grip for a Magpul since the pic was taken.

This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Are the barrels quality? Are they 1:7? It's a good price point for me.


Yes, they are great shooters.

quote:

I can't tell from the pictures is there any branding on the upper? On thing I dislike is gaudy branding.


There is no branding on the uppers. Machine time cost money and I prefer to pass the savings on than have my uppers look like a NASCAR. Barrels are marked 5.56 NATO 1/7 and there is the typical Cerro Forge keyhole marking on the receiver, but that's it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95313 posts
Posted on 2/18/16 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

As far as my other question if I get a mid length vs carbine length gas system in a complete upper is there any advantage to either?


The core issues are original design/reliable cycling/dwell time/overgassing.

Keep in mind that with a 14.5" bbl, you're close to the original M4 design specs and correspond to a carbine length gas system, whereas that same distance is reflected between a mid-length gas system and a 16" barrel - if you mix and match - (carbine and 16" or mid-length and 14.5"), then you might encounter problems you have to manage - overgassing (port size is your remedy here) and cycling issues (right size your buffer) are the most common. Also, there is some subjective differences in felt recoil, depending on barrel length, gas system and buffer weight. Fixing one issue (recoil), might cause cycling issues with, particularly, light bullets and you will have to find the right balance for your gun.

Another phenomenon from all these mix and match choices is that, for all practical purposes, a lot of these home built guns are one of a kind, and each has a personality and ammo that it "likes" and "dislikes" - as well as other quirks.

Hope this helps.

ETA: And in case it isn't clear, almost all carbines are going to have overgassing compared to a rifle. When I use that term in this post, I mean "excessive" for a carbine.
This post was edited on 2/18/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:03 am to
I'm done talking I will order today. Should I go with a drop in CMC, Velocity, etc or just standard milspec for my trigger? I'm not going to be shooting matches or anything that I forsee but want a trigger that is decent.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28537 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 10:06 am to
Finished my AR-10. Need to get out and shoot it now.



It heavy as hell though. With the suppressor it is 52.5 inches.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10558 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 10:16 am to
ALG ACT
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19210 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 11:07 am to
Question on pistol ar.

Afg. It's debated a lot

So. My AR pistol let's say is 25 1/4 inches from end of barrel (without muzzle attachement) to the end of pistol tube. 3/4 inches short of the so called 26 inches needed required if you want to install an Afg

First off. Is this 26" statement a true set in stone law?

Second. If I slide my kak blade back 3/4 inces, this will give me total of 26 inches. But is this legit? It's no more permanent than a muzzle device. Even the pistol tube is no more permanent than a muzzle device that is not pinned


Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Finished my AR-10. Need to get out and shoot it now.


Good god that is a long rifle. You need a mirage cover for that suppressor.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28537 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 1:34 pm to
It really is. 24" barrel.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5904 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 1:49 pm to
I would never go over 20 inches on an AR-10 in .308.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28537 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 2:22 pm to
This will in no way, shape, or form a cqb rifle
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5904 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 2:32 pm to
Understood. Either way .308 has much higher diminishing returns past 18-20 inches.
Edit: Not trying to disrespect you or your gun...I just would personally not build a .308 on an AR platform past 20 inches as saving 4 inches would be more important to me than the extra fps gain. On a bench gun though, extra length would be more important to me.
This post was edited on 2/20/16 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:50 pm to
I need to find a good suppressor for a colt 6940. Where is a good place to get one? Im in denham springs area.
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