re: Night club shooting in Florida...

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Look at her history, there has been nothing but scandal, corruption and murder that has followed her for 40 years.

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She's as dirty as a politician can get. I didn't vote for Barry and I won't vote for her, but I think people forget the NRA is one of the most powerful lobbies in DC. They aren't gonna go down without a fight. Again, Obama is as anti-gun as they come and even he couldn't do much beyond restricting the import of a few "armor piercing" rounds. I just don't like to see people get taken for a ride without considering all the info.

Another thing is, they can't push this one too hard. The fact that he's the son of muslim immigrants is something we've been told over and over not to be suspicious of people for. They're making it a big part of the campaign that neither immigrants or muslims are inherently bad, and this guy just gunned down 50 people. Watch and see, a few reporters may talk about guns, but the major lib players will try and let this one fade away just like they did the couple who shot up the xmas party in cali.

So are knives

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Remember when you could drink at 18, drive at 15? The only logical step after those two, and dem snappers, is all guns gon be takin from me.

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It's as if the "pro hoarders" believe that government gun grabs had actually taken place in other countries... oh wait...

The news won't stop talking about the gun issue

Or we could address the issue of moral decay, the religion of Islam (responsible for the last two mass shootings), or how the hell that this guy who was on the terror watch list and investigated (I believe I heard twice) by the FBI was able to go out and buy two gun this week legally.

PC bullshite ties law enforcements hands. They probably had a good idea that this guy was about to do something but due to all the horse shite, the FBI couldn't stop it until blood was already shed.

America is so polarized on so many issues. Always looking for someone to blame. We could argue about what the root of this problem is until the cows come home, but the bottom line is that there are ALWAYS going to be crazy humans that do shite like this. There always have.

I understand that everyone has political ideaologies they "believe in," and that's great. I respect the hell out of people's sincerely held beliefs, regardless whether I agree with them, so long as they're at least moderately informed.

That said, my problem with the entire thing is simple. Why can't it just be a tragedy? Why does there need to be anyone to blame other than the nutcase that shot up that night club? Every time this happens, everywhere you look, someone is pushing an agenda; liberals, conservatives, republicans, democrats, special interest groups, etc. The media makes these assholes famous. All that does is divide this country further, which is exactly what those that call us enemies want. A divided nation is much easier to defeat than a unified one, and it seems that instead of respecting each others' humanity/beliefs, people are just looking for more shite to fight over.

Call it whatever you want, but I sure wish people would just get over that.

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well...it is
that is what it was designed to do
the fact that 99.9% of civilian owners of an ar type forearm use it for fun, or for hunting, doesn't change the fact that its design is elegantly functional for a specific purpose...to kill efficiently and quickly

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It's easy to kill a bunch of people efficiently and quickly when they are unarmed, with an AR-15, an M-16 (perhaps you should look up the difference between the two) or even a pump-action 12 gauge shotgun.

Just like politicians do, you are concentrating on the easy way out, on the simplest so-called "solution" to the problem.

It is way more complicated than this, I'm sure you know that.

LC

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's easy to kill a bunch of people efficiently and quickly when they are unarmed,

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of course it is
that's not the point
the point is that it is likely that a majority of Americans would prefer that they not need to go armed to a nightclub, and that one way to make that more likely is to restrict access to such an efficient weapon.

doesn't matter if you or I or any other gun owner agrees with that...it's coming nonetheless

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the point is that it is likely that a majority of Americans would prefer that they not need to go armed to a nightclub

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How does one lone incident mean that every individual in the country must be armed to go to a nightclub? The statistical chances of it happening are a virtual zero. However, I would prefer to not need to be armed when I'm driving through north Baton Rouge but I know I'm much better off if I am because statistics.

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and that one way to make that more likely is to restrict access to such an efficient weapon.

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The AR15 is the most popular rifle in the country. With millions in circulation a ban would be a virtual feel-good measure. It would take decades to actually limit them. It's also worth mentioning that rifles of all kinds account for less than 3% of murders committed with firearms each year.

If politicians really want to at least pretend they care about a "gun" problem, how come cities like Chicago, Washington DC, and New Orleans don't get around-the-clock coverage? This may be one of the first weekends ever that those cities were outnumbered in murders by the city of Orlando, Florida.

And that's what bugs me so much - politicians and the media choose to bring the "gun issue" to the forefront when it's convenient to them. They see an awful event like this one where it isn't expected (not like the ghettos where it's commonplace) and springboard off of it to be representative of everywhere.