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NICS Denial new processes you might want to read this.

Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:55 am
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17674 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 7:55 am
I don’t like this at all
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The “Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2022” was signed into law on March 15, 2022. Section 1101 of the Act included the “NICS Denial Notification Act of 2022.” The Act requires the Attorney General to report background check denials to state authorities and will require the FBI Criminal Justice Information Services Division’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) Section to report all FBI NICS denied transactions to local law enforcement within 24 hours beginning October 1, 2022. The NICS Section plans to implement this change on September 26, 2022.
The denial notification will include the date and time of the denial, the reason for the denial, the location of the federal firearms licensee (FFL), and the identity of the person. The NICS denial notifications will be transmitted electronically to the appropriate receiving authorities within each state based on the city, state, county, and zip code combination of the FFL location and the city, state, county, and if different, the zip code combination of the attempted transferee’s home address. If at any time, the original denial is changed to a proceed, an updated notification to those agencies originally notified will be required.
The NICS Section is working diligently on developing the tools to make this notification as seamless as possible. To make the necessary notifications, all FFLs will be required to provide the buyer’s complete address as recorded on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Form 4473. For FFLs who initiate a check by contacting the NICS Contracted Call Center (NCCC), the address will be required if the customer receives a delay or a denied status. The information will be required before the status is provided by the NCCC. For FFLs that initiate the check through the NICS E-Check, the address will be required if the customer receives a delay or denied response. The response will not be retrievable until the information is provided. Once the system is updated to allow for the capturing of this information an additional notification will be provided. In addition, if the transfer occurs at a qualifying gun show, future programming may allow for the full address of the gun show location to be entered also.
Posted by Vlad
North AL
Member since May 2012
2605 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:09 am to
Just buy stolen firearms with ground off serial numbers, that seems to work just fine for everyone, other than law abiding citizens...
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5860 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:25 am to
Pretty sure we did that already when I worked at an FFL. Anyone who got denied had to get reported to local LEO through their portal.

To be clear, it was not optional and we didnt agree with the law but it's what we were told to do for a long time.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 8:30 am
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17674 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:31 am to
Now it’s federal law
The list making has begun I realize your captured on the 4473 but now every over reaching law enforcement agency has your information.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35590 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 8:54 am to
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For FFLs who initiate a check by contacting the NICS Contracted Call Center (NCCC), the address will be required if the customer receives a delay or a denied status.


damn, a delayed status as well? that sucks.


so what is local law enforcement supposed to do with this information? a prohibited person tried to buy a firearm and was denied. what happens next?
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5091 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:01 am to
If you are in Louisiana make sure your CCP is always up to date. With it you don't have to be called in, just fill out the form and walk out with your weapon of choice
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13815 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:45 am to
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delayed status as well? that sucks.
delay everyone, badabing.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 9:54 am to
I buy 2 to 3 guns a month on average. I get delayed at least once a month. Usually only 30 mins to an hour. We have that happen at least once a day to customers. They get home and we call them to tell them they cleared and come back. There are going to be a ton of notifications being sent out.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35590 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:32 am to
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If you are in Louisiana make sure your CCP is always up to date. With it you don't have to be called in, just fill out the form and walk out with your weapon of choice


AL used to be set up this way, but the ATF told them to stop it.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11430 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:35 am to
Selling locally in person finna eat
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90543 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:45 am to
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delayed status as well? that sucks. delay everyone, badabing.


This. Then LEOs show up to your house demanding to search for weapons
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17674 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 10:58 am to
South Carolina had similar law if you had a ccp now with the constitutional carry laws looks like that boat has sailed.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38669 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 11:52 am to
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I buy 2 to 3 guns a month on average.
pawn shop?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18897 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:06 pm to
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so what is local law enforcement supposed to do with this information?


THIS is the question. We are talking about cases where the person did NOT receive the firearm. So there isn't a "Felon/Prohibited Person in Possession" crime. There isn't a state statute that covers putting incorrect information on the 4473. That is a federal violation. So what are the locals going to do with the information?

I am really confused here.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13851 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 12:31 pm to
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There are going to be a ton of notifications being sent out.

...and a ton of "junk" emails deleted at the local police department.

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So what are the locals going to do with the information?

Maybe it puts them on a "person of interest" list.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:35 pm to
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so what is local law enforcement supposed to do with this information?
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