re: New Louisiana Record Buck by Crossbow?

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Primitive weapon like a COMPOUND bow, with release aid, fiber optic sights, lumenated nocks, range finder, etc. ?

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Yes.

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Love how compound bow hunters are so critical of others, yet believe they are on a higher road.

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Well, that's because we are.

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Trade in that compound for a longbow, wooden arrows, finger tab, and no sights and let's see how great an archer you really are.

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Why?

Good public land guys tend to be good woodsman.

I get the labor involved in managing private land, and it's members letting smaller buck pass. Lord we need more public guys to pass on small bucks .

But back in the 80's, we did not race a camero against a hot rod truck. Different catagories.

Same With private vs public. They rein in their own catagory. Not comparible

So the use of rangefinders, deer feeders, trail/cellular cams is FAIR chase? Don't judge others on how they LEGALLY hunt.

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On the other hand you can hand any dickhead a scoped crossbow, set them in a box stand and they could kill a P@Y at 60-80 yds

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That has not been my experience at all. Miss one? Yes. Kill one? No.

I have spent enough nights crawling through briers and wading through creeks trailing gut shot, brisket shot, and three legged deer shot by hunters with modern scoped rifles, at ranges under 100 yards, to that know a lot of people can’t even do it with an accurate, sighted in scoped rifle.

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would have shot him in 18

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I would have smoked that fricker in 15

Hate to burst your bubble but compound bows are not primitive weapons. Longbows and recurves with instinctive aiming are.

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Has zero to do with this conversation.

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I disagree. Poster above said you could hand anyone a crossbow and they could kill Pope and Young deer at 60-80 yards. My experience is that this is completely false, as a large percentage of new/inexperienced hunters can’t cleanly kill a doe out of a shooting house at 80 yards with a rifle. If they can’t do that, I guarandamntee you they can’t kill an old buck with a crossbow at the same range.

To add to that first hand experience, I have been around a lot of people that that have never bowhunted that show up with their brand new crossbow; or bring their wife/son/daughter with their brand new crossbow; so they can kill one during bow season. They want to kill one, and a crossbow is a guarantee. There is no way they won’t kill one with a crossbow. It almost never, ever goes like they think it will. Missed deer? Gutshot/crippled deer? Lost arrows? Shattered limbs? Parts missing off the crossbow that will never be seen again until they puncture a tractor tire in two years? Yes, that happens. A dead deer found at the end of an easy 40-100 yard track? No, about like winning powerball.

No, I did not. His first paragraph was that bow hunting required skills and experience to kill a deer, such as ranging distance, being able to make the shot, knowing when to move so you didn’t get busted or put the deer on full alert so they turn inside out jumping the string. His second paragraph was that a crossbow eliminated all of this and was a sure thing. Just put a crossbow in someone’s hands and all that other stuff magically takes care of itself.

Honest real world experience shows this is completely false. Between nerves and just being shitty shots, a lot of people can’t kill one with a scoped rifle. The idea those same people make the shot with a crossbow are laughable. So no, I didn’t miss the point of his argument. It is just wrong.

There are pros and cons of a bow versus a crossbow. A crossbow is easier to shoot accurately. But it is louder to shoot. A lot louder. Which means they jump the string worse. And that is why those mythical 80 yard shots are so hard. Even if you hold on the deer and make a “good” shot, on a calm day that deer will not be standing there. In most situations it is still a 40 yard or less game. Also, reloading a crossbow is not quiet or discreet. I have killed several deer (with a bow) when I missed the first shot, was able to knock a second arrow, and kill the deer. That does not happen with a crossbow. For one, because of all that noise shooting the first time he is in the next state. And if he does stop at 80 yards, he is gonna keep going when he see AND hears that crossbow being cocked again. In addition, a crossbow is just more awkward than a bow. They are heavier, hard to carry, and just in general a pain in the arse. They aren’t fun to shoot, so most people don’t practice with them like they do a bow, so while it might be sighted in, you don’t have the muscle memory that you need when you brain freaks out when there is a deer 30 yards in front of you and you are about to kill it. But on a rest in the backyard at 30 yards they are more accurate for almost anyone. But that is a long way from actually killing a deer.

So no, I don’t think I missed the point. I just don’t think you have a wide enough view to see over the weeds you are in.

I have killed a buck with my bow, my muzzleloader, and my rifle this year. I have not killed a deer at all with my crossbow, and only taken it once. Mainly because it is such a pain in the arse (heavy, cumbersome, just a pain). But for you, I am going to go skewer a doe with it tomorrow if I can sneak away early enough.

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o no, I don’t think I missed the point. I just don’t think you have a wide enough view to see over the weeds you are in.

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Yea you did. He was comparing shooting a compound to a crossbow. Long winded douches like you usually think the know it all so really no point.

I agree, never point a firearm at something you don’t mind shooting. But that is a crossbow. You can clearly see it is a crossbow. And you can clearly see it is not cocked, nor is there a bolt nocked. I agree you shouldn’t point a firearm at anyone. I also believe you shouldn’t drive 120 mph on the interstate, nor should you operate a boat by yourself without a PFD. But while all are good safety rules, none have anything to do with the other.

Why are so many people getting so emotionally devastated by some guy, seemingly legally, killing a deer? Did you have it on camera and were trying to kill it with a handmade spear?