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re: Nautic Star 214 XTS Shallow Bay - any info/thoughts on this boat?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:42 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:42 am to AlxTgr
small as in shallow? or as in actual size? We fish that boat in big lake and hit the marsh in it as well... its a 22' blazer bay tourney with a 250 yamaha on the back think its an sho vmax 4 stroke. we go in relatively skinny water... i mean you have to be observant of where you go and the tides, but i've been in that boat in 1' -1.5' of water.... If we want to go in anything less than that we take the pro drive duck boat... has 40 yamaha 4 stroke on it, can float in 6-8" of water... 
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Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:44 am to AlxTgr
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i'd not get anything smaller than a 22', its just another story with that extra foot.
I fish some really small waters a lot.
I'd agree on getting 22' or larger for "bay boat use".
Alex, I'm guessing you use your bayboat for a bunch of freshwater fishing (tighter places, less chop), right?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:50 am to Coon
That's an awesome looking boat.
I really wanted to go to the boat show, but didn't realize it was last weekend.
Did they have any of those Sportsman boats? Owner of Southern marine is a friend of my dad's and I drive by his place in Thib all the time...saw a 24' bay boat, brand name was Sportsman, out front...looked like a really nice rig.
I really wanted to go to the boat show, but didn't realize it was last weekend.
Did they have any of those Sportsman boats? Owner of Southern marine is a friend of my dad's and I drive by his place in Thib all the time...saw a 24' bay boat, brand name was Sportsman, out front...looked like a really nice rig.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:59 am to Coon
anyone know the price tag of this boat
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:14 am to Grassy1
quote:Yes. Places like Spring Bayou and Saline with narrow bayous and canals that have tight turns. I though my Skeeter turned poorly. Man, to be able to turn like that now. Wish Champion still made bay boats.
Alex, I'm guessing you use your bayboat for a bunch of freshwater fishing (tighter places, less chop), right?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:38 am to AlxTgr
Sold our 2011 Nautic Star 2110 last September to step up to the new 224 XTS model. The 21 was a great boat, I'd recommend to anyone looking in that price and size range. For the 21 the regular F150 is a great match, ours topped out about 53 on GPS with very light load, 19 pitch SS prop. You certainly might try the new F150 SHO or even the new F200 4-cylinder. The old 200's were waaaay too heavy for that boat since it's a fairly light hull. I'd definitely recommend trim tabs for it no matter the motor.
So far only have about 8 hours on the 224 XTS which has the stepped chine, etc. (though not entirely sure what for??), we have Yamaha F250 on it. Aesthetically, it's very similar to the 21 we had. Like Bourg said, I've never seen or heard of issues with pop-up cleats so not sure what the deal is with those; have them on the new boat and they go up and down fine. Best of luck and let me know if I might be of help on other questions
So far only have about 8 hours on the 224 XTS which has the stepped chine, etc. (though not entirely sure what for??), we have Yamaha F250 on it. Aesthetically, it's very similar to the 21 we had. Like Bourg said, I've never seen or heard of issues with pop-up cleats so not sure what the deal is with those; have them on the new boat and they go up and down fine. Best of luck and let me know if I might be of help on other questions
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:19 am to Coon
Fished out of a 1900 for the last three years chasing reds on tournament days mostly. It's not my boat, but I have spent lots of hours in it, using it about 50% of the tournaments.
Very well buit for the price. Not top of the line, but above average.
Floats a little shallower than you would think, and takes 2 footers pretty good.
The one I fish out of is paired with a F150 and tops out right at 50 mph at 5600-5800 rpm's. Has a little trouble getting out of the hole in shallow water.
The drawback I see in this boat is the max HP of 150 for a boat that's 21 foot long and 1,550 lbs. You will be not be getting the most out of that boat with a 150, fuel economy will suffer some and you will tax the motor. I would contact Nautic Star and talk to the tech department about their thoughts on raising the max HP limit. They typically base the HP limit on the weight of the available motors and what the transom can hold. There are lots of boats that weigh less and have a max HP rating of 250, so this is a head scratcher for me. Did they not put enough strength in the transom design?
Very well buit for the price. Not top of the line, but above average.
Floats a little shallower than you would think, and takes 2 footers pretty good.
The one I fish out of is paired with a F150 and tops out right at 50 mph at 5600-5800 rpm's. Has a little trouble getting out of the hole in shallow water.
The drawback I see in this boat is the max HP of 150 for a boat that's 21 foot long and 1,550 lbs. You will be not be getting the most out of that boat with a 150, fuel economy will suffer some and you will tax the motor. I would contact Nautic Star and talk to the tech department about their thoughts on raising the max HP limit. They typically base the HP limit on the weight of the available motors and what the transom can hold. There are lots of boats that weigh less and have a max HP rating of 250, so this is a head scratcher for me. Did they not put enough strength in the transom design?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:53 pm to Fifthstring
The 2110 we had was rated for a 200 on the Coast Guard placard; dunno why the new model is only rated for 150? 
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:22 pm to Tigah D
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why the new model is only rated for 150
Man I know, strange. I'm starting to think it's an error on the webpage and should not be listed as a 150. If you put three people in those jump seats getting on plane with a 3 blade prop could be an issue.
Blazer Bay makes a boat now (675 Ultimate) that is VERY similar to this one and is rated for a max 250
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:17 pm to Fifthstring
Ahh the jump seats, the best and worst thing to happen to a bay boat of that size. My 2110 has two of them, they're comfortable. Problem is, everyone wants to sit in them. So you take a light hull, throw a heavy fourstroke motor on back, then have 3-4 guys fishing with everyone sitting at or behind the console and you've got serious planing and possibly porpoising issues. (Hence my recommendation to get tabs)
Met with the owner of NS at boat show in early 2012 and he was all excited about adding a THIRD rear jump seat to the 2110......told him big mistake, IMO, as an owner! Boat is way too light in bow to have that much weight on stern. You can get away with it in the longer 22-24 ft boats but you can bet everyone is going to want to sit back there, especially now that they come with cupholders!
Met with the owner of NS at boat show in early 2012 and he was all excited about adding a THIRD rear jump seat to the 2110......told him big mistake, IMO, as an owner! Boat is way too light in bow to have that much weight on stern. You can get away with it in the longer 22-24 ft boats but you can bet everyone is going to want to sit back there, especially now that they come with cupholders!
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:19 pm to Tigah D
We almost never use ours, but the one who must be obeyed really wanted them. Otherwise, I'd probably be in a Mako right now.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:29 pm to Tigah D
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the jump seats, the best and worst thing
Was very thankful for them a couple times. Have had to ride there for the long ride back to the weigh-in with my hand in the livewell trying to keep a couple stud reds alive, made the ride kinda nice.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:39 pm to AlxTgr
alxtgr, you seem extremly dissatisfied with your boat. sorry.
anyone have any comments on how a tunnel hull affects performance as compared to a regular hull?
anyone have any comments on how a tunnel hull affects performance as compared to a regular hull?
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:42 pm to Coon
quote:I can see how it would come across that way, but I would not agree with extremely dissatisfied. Some of it has to do with going from bass boat to bay and not really Nautic Star. It's served its multipurposes fairly well. It's just not the best option out there for what I do when I fish.
alxtgr, you seem extremly dissatisfied with your boat. sorry.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:55 pm to Fifthstring
With regards to the jump seats, I wonder if they added the "planing pods" to the back to counteract the extra weight aft of the console.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 2:58 pm to Coon
The planing pods def help with stern lift, and should help keep bow down. I'd still get the tabs though.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:01 pm to Coon
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how a tunnel hull affects performance as compared to a regular hull?
You sacrafice some ride quality but get a shallower draft. And ride quality is realtive to what you are use to and current conditions. I'd be curiuos if it's a true tunnel or pocket tunnel, you hardly notice a difference with a pocket tunnel.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 3:40 pm to Fifthstring
Define pocket tunnel? I think this is may be what the xts bs may have. The tunnel extends from the stern about 1/3 forward while tapering down to meet the vee. I always imagined the tunnel going all the way to the front. Or at least extending further.
Posted on 1/28/14 at 6:50 pm to Tigah D
Not in regards to any particular comment, except to the jump seat discussion really...
but imo, my 22', if anything, rides with the bow down... occasionally I wish I could get it to ride higher. Of course, it's impossible to see what the boat is exactly doing when you're on it.
Put it this way, I would never consider the bow riding "up", except when jumping on plane which it does pretty well.
Then again, very few in our party ever really want to ride on the jump seats. (usually crowded around the console holding onto the t-top)
but imo, my 22', if anything, rides with the bow down... occasionally I wish I could get it to ride higher. Of course, it's impossible to see what the boat is exactly doing when you're on it.
Put it this way, I would never consider the bow riding "up", except when jumping on plane which it does pretty well.
Then again, very few in our party ever really want to ride on the jump seats. (usually crowded around the console holding onto the t-top)
Posted on 1/28/14 at 7:40 pm to Coon
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The tunnel extends from the stern about 1/3 forward
That is a pocket tunnel. Not many bay boats run a true tunnel, it's either straight mono hull, cat, or a version of the pocket tunnel.
"Tower Boats" that are designed sepcifically for scouting very shallow water are the exception, they have true tunnel design that varies some based on the brand.
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