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re: N. Arkansas Trout Trip?

Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1050 posts
Posted on 8/12/19 at 8:48 pm to
I go to Gaston’s yearly. I’ve been hiring Paul Jones (through Gaston’s) for a decade. Never been disappointed.

Paul’s brother Carl Jones is a freelance guide. I fished with him 30-35 yrs ago as a kid. Great fisherman/guide. He holds a Brown trout ultra light tackle world record if memory serves me right.

If you are a fly fisherman and staying at Gaston’s, Frank is the guide you need to hire.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 9:06 pm
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5618 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 8:52 am to
Fly fishing or spinning rig?
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5618 posts
Posted on 8/13/19 at 9:01 am to
I had a couple of 15 year olds on Dry Run Creek. Wife wanted to fish that morning, so I sent my son with her to the river and I took his friend to DRC. Son wasn’t thrilled to have to go with mom. My phone starts blowing up. Wife says bring the big net. We hustle across the road and the kid is fighting this one with a large crowd watching. As it turns out, he was glad he took mom fishing. FYI - we were fly fishing.

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Posted by LA_KY
'Merica
Member since Mar 2018
156 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:23 pm to
Thanks again all for the advice! I acted too late to lock in a guide (apparently October is busy season), but we did manage to find a boat to rent so we'll blindly give it a shot.

Anyone have advice on preferred setup for trout up there on the white river? We'll be using spinners not flys. Any tips are appreciated!

Will give a post-trip report
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25008 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Anyone have advice on preferred setup for trout up there on the white river? We'll be using spinners not flys. Any tips are appreciated!



There is a little spinner rig that they make up there. Most any place will have them. Very simple, just a wire with a spinner and a couple of beads. You add the hook on the wire and then a weight or two above it.

put a worm (i used the little gulp worm) or a egg on it.

Cast out and wait for something to hit it. Shouldn't take long.
Posted by Hog Zealot
On the Flats
Member since Mar 2012
1627 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:02 pm to
Its been said but Gaston’s or Cotter are the best from this old hillbilly. Ma used to schedule our summers around the dam releases. She’s such a badass with the fly rod while we were throwing corn.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38741 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Anyone have advice on preferred setup for trout up there on the white river?


Run up river, kill the motor and drag a power egg or piece of a night crawler behind you as you drift down river. Use a weight to make it bounce along the bottom.

Start at the top of deeper holes and drag through, but you can drag anywhere you can float.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:16 pm to
We always use shrimp tails. Don’t touch with sunscreen hands. Keep the tip of your rod up or you will lose the fish.
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1819 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:27 pm to
Where are you leaving out of. Might be able to help a bit if you are on the norfork or near the confluence of the white
Posted by LA_KY
'Merica
Member since Mar 2018
156 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 8:34 am to
We'll be taking off from Bull Shoals State Park, so we're a good bit up river of Norfolk - appreciate the offer though!

Thanks all for the tactics tips.
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 8:37 am
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1819 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 2:57 pm to
Can't help on much on locations but as far as tactics go I have a few suggestions that seem to have worked for my family over the last 60+ years on the river.

1st look at satellite imagery, find the deep holes and spend most of your time fishing there. Kill the motor at the head of the hole and drift down, sometimes the hole is a few hundred yards other times its a few miles. There are times they will move shallow but it is a lot less common.

2nd Drift fishing bait will put the most fish in the boat. Learn how to tie a river rig, basically a drop/carolina rig. Normally 24-36 inch leader with a 6-8 inch drop. I've recently gone to a three way swivel with 6# 36 inch leader and a drop about 2 inches using 2# test with a big split shot on the end. If you get hung normally its the weight that gets caught, if you don't over squeeze it will often slip off. For hooks look at #8 size.

3. Bait- I've had luck with everything from worm to corn to powerbait but I do better with small cooked shrimp than anything else. I will do some flavoring while cooking that seems to help.

4. You will find big fish directly downstream from cover, trout more so than any other fish I've found.

5. If you decide to use crankbaits look at trout, perch and crawfish patterns. Popular baits seem to be shadrap s5-s7, countdowns in size 5-7, rebel crawfish and stickbaits if targeting large browns.

6. Inline spinners and spoons have a big following and there are days they are hot and days they are worthless, you normally know within a few minutes which it will be.

7. Vary your retrieve speed until you find what works. Slight changes in speed can often produce huge results. Normally a steady retrieve is best but have had some days a bit of a pause triggered big bites.

I'll try to add more later but I have to run now.
Posted by LA_KY
'Merica
Member since Mar 2018
156 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:47 pm to
Thanks all for the advice - drifting river rigs and power bait (yellow/green/pink) seemed to be where it was at, although worms pulled a couple in the boat also. Spinners & spoons were a bust.

Ended up renting a boat for $150 for the day, and while I'm sure a guide could have put us on some big-uns the boat worked out really well. Bank fishing was pretty good also. Camp-sites at bull shoals state park were nice and well kept.

What a great river, pretty hard to have a bad time out there. A lot of folks out fishing, but it never felt crowed on the water. Came close to pulling in our limit of rainbows which cooked up great.

Will definitely be headed back here in the future.
Posted by LSUgrad1998
Member since Aug 2018
775 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:52 pm to
Mountain Home area. The question is do you want to just fish or CATCH fish. If its just fish then use tied flies, if it's CATCH fish then get a couple cans of DelMonte corn.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25008 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:13 pm to
Congrats on a good trip.

Thanks for the update.
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
1819 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:42 pm to
If you decide to go again let me know. I'll get your contact info and put you on a mess
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:58 am to
Yeah if you are wading downstream and hear a bigass horn that means its time to move. Learned this the hard way on the little red.
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