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re: My input/observation on LA Redfish
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:11 pm to HogsWillRiseAgain
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:11 pm to HogsWillRiseAgain
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75-100+ sh
You assume it’s like that everywhere yet you state in your post y’all moved around looking for additional spots to “fish”
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Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:16 pm to MoarKilometers
We don’t red tide in Louisiana Baw
Posted on 2/11/24 at 1:19 pm to DMAN1968
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Are you expecting him to see a lot of 27" and up fish deep in the marsh. Seeing a lot of up and coming breeders is never a problem.
Nope. That’s not what I was trying to say. I’m talking about 18-24” fish. Almost every fisherman I consistently talk to says they are having a tough time finding that mid to upper slot fish. The slot fish are where the problem lies and, to my knowledge, the only predator out there that only eats slot redfish is us. We could have 10 billion 26”ish and under redfish in our fishery and it means absolutely nothing to the future of our fishery if none of them escape into sexual maturity.
He said “short fish” so I assumed he was talking about rats or lower slot fish. Maybe he meant something else
Posted on 2/11/24 at 6:28 pm to bluemoons
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it needs to be regulated in some way.
5 fish is 5 fish
Plenty more rod a day reel fisherman than bowfishing
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:22 am to HogsWillRiseAgain
I’ve never bowfished before, so I don’t know, but how many times do reds under 16 inches get shot and mistaken for reds that are of legal size?
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:30 am to maisweh
That's a terrible argument. I've been bowfishing before. Limits are a sure thing if you don't suck, the marsh destruction going on is ridiculous, undersized fish get shot
It should not be a thing. Its not even fun. I felt like a disgusting greaseball for taking part in it and I'll never go again.
It should not be a thing. Its not even fun. I felt like a disgusting greaseball for taking part in it and I'll never go again.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:42 am to sta4ever
I’ve had my own bowfishing boat for 5 years…there has only been one fish under 16” shot out of my boat. It was 15 3/4” and we kept it, I was going to accept the consequences had we gotten checked.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 9:59 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It should not be a thing. Its not even fun. I felt like a disgusting greaseball for taking part in it and I'll never go again.
Some people would say the same thing about dog hunting deer...
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:02 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:You also didn't really explain how what he said was a terrible argument. He made two valid points and you didn't respond to either one. I would think most people agree that a majority (and probably vast majority) of redfish harvested in LA are via rod and reel, so I'm curious as to why that's a terrible argument.
That's a terrible argument. I've been bowfishing before. Limits are a sure thing if you don't suck, the marsh destruction going on is ridiculous, undersized fish get shot
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:08 am to TunaTime
Because a bow fishing limit is a sure thing and rod and reel is not.
Air cooled engines and boats covered with lights shouldn't be in the marsh in the first place, much less shooting game fish while they are doing it.
Air cooled engines and boats covered with lights shouldn't be in the marsh in the first place, much less shooting game fish while they are doing it.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:15 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I guess we can agree to disagree about the bow fishing limit being a sure thing. While most of my trips end up resulting in limits, that is mostly due to knowing conditions, tide, wind, etc. When conditions aren't right, it can be difficult to shoot fish. Or maybe I just suck, who knows.
As for the second statement, couldn't we say the same for 4 wheelers being in the woods? Or dogs being used to harvest animals like deer? Or corn feeders? All controversial things I've seen brought up over the years on the OB and just in general.
As for the second statement, couldn't we say the same for 4 wheelers being in the woods? Or dogs being used to harvest animals like deer? Or corn feeders? All controversial things I've seen brought up over the years on the OB and just in general.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 5:35 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Because a bow fishing limit is a sure thing and rod and reel is not.
Lol what? Limits are not a sure thing
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should not be a thing. Its not even fun. I felt like a disgusting greaseball for taking part in it and I'll never go again.
You sound like a Democrat. "I don't like it so no one should do it"
Like they held you down and forced you to shoot.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 7:57 pm to sta4ever
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do reds under 16 inches get shot
Of course they do, but they all practice stick and release.
Having boats lit up like Tiger Stadium cruising through all the shallow water and ponds all night long distresses the fish, to say nothing of tearing up the marsh that’s already rapidly disappearing.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:01 pm to maisweh
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don't like it so no one should do it
I dont like bowling but people who go bowling aren't destroying the marsh and killing the shite out of fish.
quote:
Limits are not a sure thing
They were every time I've gone. It's easy af.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:02 pm to TunaTime
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couldn't we say the same for 4 wheelers being in the woods? Or dogs being used to harvest animals like deer? Or corn feeders
No. None of those are comparable to destroying marsh.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:19 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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destroying the marsh and killing the shite out of fish.
Rod and reel and pogey boats kill way more and it's not close
17 year Olds in fastballs running their gator tails destroy more marsh then the bow guides.
Posted on 2/12/24 at 8:57 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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No. None of those are comparable to destroying marsh.
So if that's the argument, which seems to keep changing, then wouldn't banning airboats be a better option? Or ban surface drives all together? What's stopping people from driving around in them during the day destroying marsh, or having mud runs which would destroy marsh? Should we outlaw that too? I can tell you that Ida and other storms destroyed more marsh than a surface drive ever will in the areas I fish. Maybe thats not the case in your area. Do they help the cause? No, but let's not act like that's the main factor, or even a major one, in coastal erosion.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 4:54 am to TunaTime
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TunaTime
When you make a good point the OB can't make a rebuttal on, they just downvote you
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:00 am to HogsWillRiseAgain
You are part of the problem. Congrats! The steam against bow fishing in Louisiana is picking up steam and it’s glorious.
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:26 am to maisweh
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When you make a good point the OB can't make a rebuttal on, they just downvote you
I see that.
If anyone has Google earth pro or a similar mapping system, you can go back in time and watch the land disappear in southeast LA. I know go-devils were first, but Gatortails were founded in 2004. How long before they were mainstream, 2010? The coast in SE LA not around the river was rapidly eroding prior to 2010. Whereas areas around Venice, that are heavily hunted with surface drives, have continued building land. So what's the real problem?
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