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re: My Glock 27 was stolen
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:52 am to weagle99
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:52 am to weagle99
quote:
I'll even confess to forgetfulness and leaving it unlocked
quote:Clarify, please. If I accept the risks (as stated), where is the harm other than losing the gun? Do you feel it represents a threat to the general public? Not being argumentative, but I'd like to know. Does this represent an unsafe situation to other people?
And this is why
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:53 am to jimjackandjose
Of certain guns I don’t
Do what y’all want, I’m not y’all’s manager. But it does seem like some are a little too cavalier about losing a deadly weapon that could end up doing who knows what at a crime scene or in a dumb kid’s hands.
And yes it is a drag that we are almost ‘victim blaming’ for someone who was wronged through theft. But it is just reality, IMO.
Do what y’all want, I’m not y’all’s manager. But it does seem like some are a little too cavalier about losing a deadly weapon that could end up doing who knows what at a crime scene or in a dumb kid’s hands.
And yes it is a drag that we are almost ‘victim blaming’ for someone who was wronged through theft. But it is just reality, IMO.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:54 am to tigerpawl
quote:
So I see all the hate for the .40. But why? Haven't
.40 has higher pressure which translates to more recoil. It is harder for most people to control a .40 when compared with a 9mm. This is even more difficult when you have a subcompact pistol. You also have higher capacity with 9mm vs 40 which is also important when you’re talking about subcompacts. There are also many outstanding choices for 9mm bullets nowadays, so terminal performance is less of an issue.
If you can shoot a .40 as accurately and as fast as you can a 9mm, then get another .40, but most people can’t do that.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:55 am to weagle99
quote:Duly noted. Don't think this hasn't crossed my mind and created 2nd thoughts... baked into the cake.
But it does seem like some are a little too cavalier about losing a deadly weapon that could end up doing who knows what at a crime scene or in a dumb kid’s hands.
quote:Should have included this earlier. I DO NOT keep one in the chamber.
Weagle doesn’t keep one in the chamber either
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 6:58 am
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:57 am to tigerpawl
quote:
Do you feel it represents a threat to the general public
A stolen gun? Yes.
And part of me hates that it is like that. You would be the victim of the theft and as such shouldn’t be ‘blamed’ for what happens. At the same time owning a firearm isn’t like owning a shovel.
Hope I’m not sounding confrontational. Have a good one
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 6:58 am
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:59 am to weagle99
quote:You're not. Civil debate is the cornerstone to getting it right.
Hope I’m not sounding confrontational. Have a good one
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:00 am to tigerpawl
quote:
Relatively speaking, losing a gun is a small price to pay for being alive.
If you need a gun to stay alive, keeping it in the glove box is not the best plan.
It’s not that hard to get in the habit of toting a gun with you everywhere you go. But if you want to leave a gun in your vehicle indefinitely, get something more secure to store it in. (Console vault, locker down, etc)
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:20 am to Theduckhunter
quote:
So I see all the hate for the .40. But why?
I reload 45acp and every damn time I collect brass I end up getting someone's 40 brass mixed in. That is my only complaint against it
But what do I know? My fave caliber is 38 Super.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:26 am to tigerpawl
I've got one I was thinking about selling. Are you in Louisiana?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:30 am to tigerpawl
Someone else said it, but I also highly recommend the g43 for concealed carry.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:32 am to tigerpawl
You had a 16 yr old gun you shot two mags through…why even get another one?
There’s very little chance you’d ever be able to get that gun out of the console, rack the slide, and put one on target before the immediate threat had the draw on you. Are you thinking you’d be a vigilante, see something happening in the distance and go save the day? Just run them over with your truck.
There’s very little chance you’d ever be able to get that gun out of the console, rack the slide, and put one on target before the immediate threat had the draw on you. Are you thinking you’d be a vigilante, see something happening in the distance and go save the day? Just run them over with your truck.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:11 am to weagle99
I dont keep a gun in the truck overnight.
Too many thieves out there.
Too many thieves out there.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:35 am to tigerpawl
As far as a recommendation of a new gun… it really depends on what you want to use it for. There’s no reason to have a subcompact unless you intend to conceal it. If you’re going to keep it on your nightstand, in your truck, or open carry it, you’re going to want something full size. If you’re set on .40, that would be the G22, but as I mentioned, .40 is tougher to control and shoot accurately, especially for someone who doesn’t practice often. That being said, full size will be easier to be control than a sub compact.
I would recommend 9mm for a variety of reasons. If you’re into Glock, that would be a G17.
If you intend to carry concealed at some point, then you might want to look at some of the smaller sub compacts as others have mentioned. There are plenty of single stack sub compact 9mms that are easy to conceal, easy to shoot, and have decent capacity.
Bottom line is, if it’s a gun that’s gonna stay in the truck or home, or be open carried, make sure it is full sized. If you want to conceal, then look at sub compacts.
Edit: As other have mentioned, it’s not ideal to have a gun that doesn’t have a round in the chamber. But it is your preference. If you do keep a round in the chamber, make sure it is in some type of holster where the trigger is protected.
I would recommend 9mm for a variety of reasons. If you’re into Glock, that would be a G17.
If you intend to carry concealed at some point, then you might want to look at some of the smaller sub compacts as others have mentioned. There are plenty of single stack sub compact 9mms that are easy to conceal, easy to shoot, and have decent capacity.
Bottom line is, if it’s a gun that’s gonna stay in the truck or home, or be open carried, make sure it is full sized. If you want to conceal, then look at sub compacts.
Edit: As other have mentioned, it’s not ideal to have a gun that doesn’t have a round in the chamber. But it is your preference. If you do keep a round in the chamber, make sure it is in some type of holster where the trigger is protected.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 8:38 am
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:43 am to tigerpawl
quote:Okay.
Let's talk about this.
You're a lazy piece of shite who has now put a firearm on the street that could very well take the life of an innocent person.
If you'd been a more conscientious firearm owner this likely would not have happened.
Instead, you're exactly the type of person that the left loves to exemplify when it comes to anti-gun sentiment.
So thanks, a-hole.
EDIT: Downvote away, but OP is the poster child for the left and puts stink on all other responsible gun owners.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 9:50 am
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:17 am to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
Okay. You're a lazy piece of shite who has now put a firearm on the street that could very well take the life of an innocent person. If you'd been a more conscientious firearm owner this likely would not have happened. Instead, you're exactly the type of person that the left loves to exemplify when it comes to anti-gun sentiment. So thanks, a-hole. EDIT: Downvote away, but OP is the poster child for the left and puts stink on all other responsible gun owners.
It seems to be a case or ignorance that is probably more common than I’d like to believe. Hopefully this situation and thread will help him and others change their ways, but attacking people for a mistake is probably not the best approach.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:26 am to Theduckhunter
quote:OP admits to leaving the pistol in his vehicle for nearly 6000 nights and cannot pinpoint when the firearm was stolen better than a 30-day period.
It seems to be a case or ignorance that is probably more common than I’d like to believe. Hopefully this situation and thread will help him and others change their ways, but attacking people for a mistake is probably not the best approach.
He's lazy and dangerous, and he's exactly the type of firearm owner the left and the media want to spotlight.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:40 am to tigerpawl
quote:
where is the harm other than losing the gun? Do you feel it represents a threat to the general public?
If I ever had a pistol stolen and the cops showed up to my door saying it was used in a murder, I would feel tremendous guilt for my negligence.
I keep a pistol in my truck at all times. Overnight, it's in a locked box that is cable wrapped around my seat post. If someone really wants it, they could steal it. I'm just going to slow down the thief as much as possible.
It's easy enough to pop open each morning when I get in the truck.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:55 am to Shexter
quote:Bingo.
If I ever had a pistol stolen and the cops showed up to my door saying it was used in a murder, I would feel tremendous guilt for my negligence.
quote:You sound like a responsible firearm owner.
I keep a pistol in my truck at all times. Overnight, it's in a locked box that is cable wrapped around my seat post. If someone really wants it, they could steal it. I'm just going to slow down the thief as much as possible.
It's easy enough to pop open each morning when I get in the truck.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:09 am to tigerpawl
quote:
Do you feel it represents a threat to the general public? Not being argumentative, but I'd like to know. Does this represent an unsafe situation to other people?
By your own actions and history, you have answered all of your own questions.
Do you feel it represents a threat to the general public?: frick yes.
Does this represent an unsafe situation to other people?: frick yes.
-- you lost control of a gun. You don't know where it is, and you don't know who has it.
Was it some thug? Was it some drug addict? Was it just some creeper and noticed your truck unlocked and got lucky? Was it a kid?
You DON'T fricking know. And because you don't know, you can't rule ANY of them out. As a gun owner, it is YOUR responsibility to maintain control of its security. Due to your own negligence, a negligence that you admit will probably happen again, you have armed someone. Which means you have partial responsibility of any action taken with said gun.
Maybe you got lucky this time and some creeper picked it up and has it stashed at his house.
How can you rule out that next time, it isn't some 12 year old kids and one of them accidentally blasts a hole in his little sister's head because he doesn't understand the power in his hand?
You can't. You can't rule that scenario out.
Is it likely? With all honesty, it is NOT likely. But is it possible? frick yes.
Why take that chance? Don't be lazy. Secure your gun.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:13 pm to Shexter
That’s pretty cool, I’d get fired if I drove that on-site at work. Mine stays in a similar safe near my bed. One finger reader and a 4 button key pad.
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