re: More Menhaden Bullsh*t

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don't trust the CCA of Louisiana,

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I feel this should be restated to say "I don't trust CCA of Louisiana to properly lead the effort against the Menhaden industry."

CCA and David Cresson had leverage and momentum during the October 2023 commission with a proposed NOI 1-mile coastwise buffer with 3 miles in parts of Cameron while maintaining 3-mile around the Grand Isle area. Ultimately, the original NOI was amended early 2024, and called for a 1/2-mile coast wide buffer. This was after a meeting between CCA, Daybrook and Omega to 'negotiate' a reasonable outcome.

CCA does a good job with initiatives like the STAR Tournament, regional meetings, and the REEF Louisiana program; however, they should not be perceived as leading the effort against the menhaden industry, especially as conditions surrounding the issue appear to be worsening rather than improving.

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Who is leading it then?

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That's a fair question to which I don't have an answer.

This matter is now heading to the House Natural Resources and Environment Committee which has a few possible outcomes.

It's my understanding that the Committe Chair determines whether to hold a hearing. If it is scheduled, LDWF officials must appear before the committee to present and answer questions. If the Chairman does not schedule it, the rule typically moves forward without a hearing.

The Committee Chair is Brett F. Geymann and Joseph A. Orgeron - Vice Chair (he's an ally for us, not the menhaden industry)

Geymann has accepted campaign contributions from Omega Protein, Orgeron has not. (according to public record)

Motorboat, I see again you cannot tell the truth. CCA of Louisiana is a Texas group that does what is best for its top-level members. If you believe CCA is leading the Menhaden push, you should really consider how bad this organization really is since recreational fishermen or getting pounded. Maybe then you will see how much of a laughingstock this group is in the political sector.

Not really am not sure of what t"en-year ago" issue you are talking about, but that is usually what CCA blowhards do-make stuff up when they cannot defend the facts.

To answer the previously poised question of who is leading the push-the unfortunate answer right now is the Menhaden industry.

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To answer the previously poised question of who is leading the push-the unfortunate answer right now is the Menhaden industry.

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Right because politicians and commission members are being bought.

CCA is the only organization I see at least attempting to be the voice of opposition. For all your cloak and dagger responses about your organization, you haven't one time named who they are and how they are helping fight this fight. Kudos for the good work that they do (ramps, veterans, etc), but what does that have to do with fighting the Menhaden Industry?

As I have said in this and other threads, fighting the Menhaden coalition with the WLF commission is a losing battle. A legislative solution is the only answer. Until enough saltwater fishermen get off their asses and contact their representatives, our resources will continue to get raped. Louisiana as the "Sportsman's Paradise" is now just a joke. Our state representation has sold us out for an industry that doesn't care if a recreational fisherman gets to catch another fish.

No legitimate group, with real credentials in the lobbying industry is every going to partner with CCA of Louisiana because of its reputation in Baton Roge and Washington. Our group and many others have worked closely with CCA's of Georgia, Florida and Alabama.

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I don't hate CCA of Louisiana, I hate that they constantly lie to their members, to politicians and the general public, not only in the past, but presently.

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prove it

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Do you realize it was one of only a few 501C corps that refused to release their payroll numbers to the public? When the numbers were finally made public (not by CCA of Louisiana's choosing), it was understandably easy to see why for 35 years it refused to do so.

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Yes, I have seen this argument brought against CCA since Facebook started. I do not care. The people at CCA work their assses off.

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Quit using the CCA of Louisiana MO, lie, and then lie again, then attack the messenger, I guess that is all that can be done, when you cannot use facts.

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You need to take a hard look at your posts and review your moral high ground on attacking a messenger and ad hominem attacks.

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Our group is not large, about 10-15 members, that spend our time and resources lobbing for special need folks and wounded veterans, while letting them experience the outdoors around this country at no cost to them.

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Great. what is lobbing? Why do these groups need lobbying or government for outdoor experiences? Should be a charity thing.

Motormouth, the best you got is mocking me for a misspelled word. This is why legit groups do not partner with CCA of Louisiana for lobbying efforts.

At your next "Come to Jesus" meeting, ask your fearless leaders why they never took a political stance on the rigs-to-reefs program, also ask them why despite the very language of its mission statement, they never took a stance on what is considered private vs public waterways. Then report back here on what they told the few fools in the audience. Thereafter, I may publish so sworn testimony to show you and your foolish co-harts the real reason it refuses to take a stance on these two important issues.

What we do, unlike CCA of Louisiana is charity. Why do we need lobbying-Becasue we believe veterans should not need hunting and fishing licenses for each state we take them, regardless of their residence. They defended, some with their lives, others with their limbs, the entire country. We believe they should have better care for non-visible injuries; we believe they should be respected in natural death and their respected families afforded help if so needed. We believe they should have better opportunities when they are discharge, like housing, education and employment.

These men and women fought and served so people like you can get behind a keyboard in your parent's garage and say whatever you want to say, even when its false.

Oh, and by the way, I have one undergraduate degree form LSU, one doctorate degree from LSU, and a post doctorate degree from Tulane. I apologize for being so unwise that I inadvertently misspelled "Rouge".

It is very tough to have an intelligent argument with an unarmed man.

It is obvious you live in a dream world. You have no clue why CCA of Louisiana refused to get involved with private vs public waterways nor the rig to reef program. So, next meeting asks your highly paid leaders, then report back and I will publish the sworn testimony showing the real reasons.

I do not brag about my education, you insulted me, so I told you about myself. A typical CCA of Louisiana lie tactice-Make falsé claims when you cannot argue the facts, then lie and state you never made those claims.

Vets do get benefits, but not enough and getting them is not an easy task. Getting non-resident licenses for 25 vets and they guest, 10 times a year, is not an easy task. But you don't know anything about hard work, you just like insulting people who state proven facts about a group you idolize that has been lying to you and others since its inception.

Mom's calling, go back in your parents' garage. .

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Hopefully we can get Jeff primaried or at minimum force him to answer questions about why he is in bed with these foreign companies at the expense of the citizens of LA.

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There is only one answer to that question, and it's not one you are ever going to get him to say. I'm afraid for some of the good things he has done, this pogey situation is going to cost him.

He had the opportunity to at least appear to appease by denying the reduced zone from an already short 1/2 mile (when they were already passing within that border) to 1/4 mile.

Instead, they just pulled our pants down and stuck it in, a move I find to be telling as it relates to how business is handled in all things regarding the public. I mean, if you're going to do THIS on a matter involving pogies, what else would you do?