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re: MASSIVE Western Diamondback

Posted on 7/20/24 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 3:32 pm to
Wavefan, hit me up any time you want to go. During these hot months I mostly just night cruise, but will hike up some stuff when the fall hits.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Do you have health insurance?


I do, but not certain if a bite would be covered.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 3:39 pm to
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Did you mean 10-50%? Seems like 1000% more lethal would be probably death and 5000% more would be certain death.


According to the book I read, literally 10-50x more lethal. Of course, the testing is done on mice, not humans, but it does say 10-50x more lethal. By comparison, a coral snake is stated to be 4-5x more lethal than a Western Diamondback and 11x more lethal than a Copperhead. And the most potent Mojaves are supposedly more potent than corals. There's also variability with how much venom is injected. A coral holds about 20 mg of venom and 4-5 mg can kill a human. A Western Diamondback packs 200-300 mg and a big Eastern Diamondback can pack 300-400 mg.
Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:19 am to
What kind of lizards did you come across?
Posted by Fearless_and_True
Steel City
Member since Oct 2017
2150 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:01 am to
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the snake had plenty of room to wheel around for a hit. Was that not a concern?


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You have to read the snake’s attitude and body language.


I was wondering the same thing.
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The guy I was with the rest of the trip had recently put one this size around his neck - I probably could have with this one, but I certainly wasn’t going to.


Nooooope
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:43 am to
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What kind of lizards did you come across?


Don’t know my Texas lizards that well, but I think they were…
Great Plains skink (adult & juvie)
Crevice spiny lizard
Canyon lizard
Texas banded gecko
Greater earless lizard

When I get time I’ll do a whole thread with everything we found - think it was 9 lifer species for me on the snakes alone.

Other sites….
herd of elk
big male elk
huge elk shed antler
javelinas
hog-nosed skunk
ringtail
tarantulas
scorpions
aoudads
a bajillion does & bucks
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13489 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:55 am to
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Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of a book by Harry Crews, Feast of Snakes, about a Georgia Rattlesnake Rodeo.


Out of a body of work notorious for gruesome story telling Feast of Snakes may be the most gruesome of Crews work. If you ain't read Crews you ought to....
Posted by cdhorn28
Member since Sep 2016
774 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:47 pm to
Saw a massive one south of San Antonio as well, in Pearsall, not quite this big but he was 25-30' away from me and I was still shitting my pants. You have some balls bruh.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3168 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:51 pm to
You crazy!
Posted by MikeyWM97
Pineville
Member since Aug 2022
405 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

quote:
Do you have health insurance?


I do, but not certain if a bite would be covered.


I would probably check on if insurance will pay for bite treatment if you are purposely handling a snake. I've seen some pretty crazy numbers for rattlesnake bite treatments, and insurance will be looking for any reason to get out of that payment.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8321 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:51 pm to
Surprised you didn’t see any Horned lizards. Were you far enough west Texas to see any Collareds? Those are fine!
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15960 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 9:27 pm to
I realize they’re not venomous but did you happen to run across a Texas Indigo while you were around San Antonio?
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:21 am to
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Surprised you didn’t see any Horned lizards. Were you far enough west Texas to see any Collareds?


Was hoping for both but no luck. The guy I was with got both last trip.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:22 am to
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I realize they’re not venomous but did you happen to run across a Texas Indigo while you were around San Antonio?


Cruised a road at night in their area but they are found more often in the morning, and usually in cooler months.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69957 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 6:35 am to
I live in a new neighborhood in south west Florida. My neighbor took this picture two days ago. It was right beside her pool fence. Man that thing scares me. I walk alot trying to lose some weight and we have trials all over the woods here. I never thought those frickers were here.

Thing was very big.


Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7952 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:14 am to
The Eastern Diamondbacks in Florida are a lot less common than the Western Diamondbacks in Texas, which are pretty widespread. In April I hit a hot spot for EDBs in South Florida for 2 days with no luck, but after seeing a dead one on the road we stayed an extra day and went all in on finding one - and finally did. The big ones are becoming much harder to find.



I’ve gotten a little bolder in my free handling over the past few months.

Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 11:13 am to
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For those that don't understand, you either have a fascination with snakes or not. No real explanation.

I mean, there's middle ground. I'm fascinated with snakes. I'm not as good as Tigrdad (or probably you either) but I can positively ID a vast majority of NA snakes 95+% of the time. I like to read and learn about them and I'd say I know way more about snakes than most of the population. But I have absolutely 0.0% of a desire to play with them. I take the neaturewalk stance with snakes.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
6464 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 11:47 am to
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if you are purposely handling a snake


I would hope Tigerdad would be smart enough to not tell the hospital that he was playing with rattle snakes for fun. You were hiking in the dark and came across a snake that bit you. Doubtful they will research your online posts to find out you're a snake handler.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 4:45 pm to
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This thing was so impressively massive and heavy - I just couldn’t resist.


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