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re: Louisiana Legislature Fails to Override Veto of Constitutional Carry Bill
Posted on 7/21/21 at 1:55 pm to CharlesLSU
Posted on 7/21/21 at 1:55 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:She could run over you in the parking lot, too. What’s your point. FYI plenty shite can kill you.
Rando, had a lady in our class paint the room with a pistol when she had questions on whether it was loaded properly. Terrifying. At a minimum, the instructor gave her a tutorial on the operation as well as some safety pointers. You can't tell me it didn't have value, because prior to that exchange she easily could've killed herself or someone else in the name of constitutional right.
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 1:57 pm to CharlesLSU
quote:And who’s to say these morons wouldn’t seek out instruction on their own?
Hey, call it like it is (and by the letter of the law you are correct), but don't act like some people getting at least this nominal training doesn't have some benefit.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:18 pm to CajunCommander
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You took a hunters safety course to be able to hunt
You took a boaters course to be able to operate a boat
You took a driving test to get your driver's license
None of these are constitutionally guaranteed rights.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:35 pm to White Bear
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She could run over you in the parking lot, too.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:40 pm to kengel2
quote:This is just a terrible post all around and paints you as a pretty shitty person. If it truly were a freedom, we would not need legislation. The courts would decide our laws on this are unconstitutional. So, go ahead and call people idiots when you really don't know what you're talking about just because you disagree with them.
Your reasoning is a terrible argument. The classes wont stop and there are benefits to getting a permit.
This just allowed law abiding citizens to conceal carry. A criminal isnt going to follow the law anyway, so this only impacts law abiding citizens.
Its idiots like you that keep giving away freedoms for no reason. Im terrified that you are allowed to vote.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:53 pm to CharlesLSU
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CharlesLSU
Tell me you don't understand the least bit about the Constitution and rights without saying you don't understand the least bit about the Constitution and rights.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 2:56 pm to AlxTgr
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This is just a terrible post all around and paints you as a pretty shitty person.
Whats terrible about it? That I called someone an idiot that called someone else a piece of shite?
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If it truly were a freedom, we would not need legislation.
So the fact that we are trying to take freedoms back means Im a shitty person?
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The courts would decide our laws on this are unconstitutional.
Probably not, they would just give an opinion and not really do anything.
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So, go ahead and call people idiots when you really don't know what you're talking about just because you disagree with them.
Ya, I totally making everything up. Concealed carry classes would cease to exist and there would be no benefits to getting a permit like reciprocity with other states or bypassing the atf background check when buying a gun.
Might as well join your boy in the column to the left.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:00 pm to kengel2
quote:Nothing in that posts suggests he's an idiot.
That I called someone an idiot that called someone else a piece of shite?
quote:No, you attacking someone when you don't know what you're talking about suggests you are.
So the fact that we are trying to take freedoms back means Im a shitty person?
quote:I'm just telling you how this works, not what the result would be.
Probably not, they would just give an opinion and not really do anything.
quote:I never said anything about that. You're a fricking a-hole
Ya, I totally making everything up. Concealed carry classes would cease to exist and there would be no benefits to getting a permit like reciprocity with other states or bypassing the atf background check when buying a gun.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:05 pm to AlxTgr
So you agree with him that because people are idiots we should gave to get a license to conceal carry?
Thats stupid.
Using that fact that there are stupid people in the world to justify taking rights/freedoms away from others suggests that.
Are we talking constitutional carry or not?
I dont disagree with this.
Thats stupid.
quote:
Nothing in that posts suggests he's an idiot.
Using that fact that there are stupid people in the world to justify taking rights/freedoms away from others suggests that.
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No, you attacking someone when you don't know what you're talking about suggests you are.
Are we talking constitutional carry or not?
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I never said anything about that. You're a fricking a-hole
I dont disagree with this.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:10 pm to kengel2
quote:I never said that, but it's an upon which reasonable minds can differ. They obviously do, yet you think there's only one way. Calling it stupid is an emotional reaction from a gun nut who really can't see the issue for what it is.
So you agree with him that because people are idiots we should gave to get a license to conceal carry?
Thats stupid.
quote:See, this is just dumb/uneducated. No one is taking away a right. You simply do not understand the process.
Using that fact that there are stupid people in the world to justify taking rights/freedoms away from others suggests that.
quote:What does constitutional carry mean to you?
Are we talking constitutional carry or not?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:11 pm to Comic_Tiger
quote:Oh, this is rich
Tell me you don't understand the least bit about the Constitution and rights without saying you don't understand the least bit about the Constitution and rights.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 3:42 pm to AlxTgr
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I never said that, but it's an upon which reasonable minds can differ. They obviously do, yet you think there's only one way. Calling it stupid is an emotional reaction from a gun nut who really can't see the issue for what it is.
I see the issue just fine. I dont think I really hurt his feelings, if I did he might need thicker skin.
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See, this is just dumb/uneducated. No one is taking away a right. You simply do not understand the process.
I understand the process, a right that should be free to all requires a class, background check, and money for a permit. This bill was to remove the cost requirements.
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What does constitutional carry mean to you?
Permitless carry essentially.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 5:37 pm to CharlesLSU
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Honest question: why are alot of you so opposed to firearms training and licensing?
Wait, you want me to have to get an ID (license) to exercise my right to carry according to the Constitution?
That's discriminatory and makes it more difficult for minorities. They don't have the money to take the classes, can't get transportation to them, or figure out the paperwork.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 5:56 pm to CajunCommander
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What the hell is wrong with requiring training to concealed carry?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
Posted on 7/21/21 at 6:12 pm to kengel2
You think people are going to take a class and get a permit that is not required?
By your logic, why do we have drivers licenses?
By your logic, why do we have drivers licenses?
Posted on 7/21/21 at 6:50 pm to ecb
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You think people are going to take a class and get a permit that is not required?
Yes, there are benefits to getting the permit.
Reciprocity with other states, without the permit you cant carry in other states.
Bypassing the background check to buy a gun.
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By your logic, why do we have drivers licenses?
Ya, thats not this works.
Dont take offense to my idiot comment earlier. Alxtgr did have a point. Its an emotional subject, and nothing personal meant by it.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 7/21/21 at 7:37 pm to AlxTgr
I used to really enjoy your posts, but the past few years you come off as a real fricking dickhead.
Maybe you need to get checked for alzheimer's you pompous bastard.
Maybe you need to get checked for alzheimer's you pompous bastard.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:41 am to CootKilla
quote:It's not me I assure you. Show me where you get this in this thread.
I used to really enjoy your posts, but the past few years you come off as a real fricking dickhead.
quote:This as well.
you pompous bastard.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:43 am to tonydtigr
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Wait, you want me to have to get an ID (license) to exercise my right to carry according to the Constitution?
See, here's where some of you are lost and you're being asses about it, then call me names because I call you out on it
If it's your right under the constitution, why do you need the legislature?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:16 am to AlxTgr
The right is for the people to keep and bear arms. From there it is interpreted. So far the supreme court has refused to hear cases on the matter, but that may change.
Supreme Court to potentially take up case
Supreme Court to potentially take up case
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