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re: LDWF Compliance Check of Menhaden Fishing Activities in Terrebonne Finds No Violations
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:39 am to Motorboat
Posted on 8/6/25 at 11:39 am to Motorboat
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I was at the pogey meeting at ldwf where David and omega guy were directed to meet and come up with a compromise
Likewise, the room was filled with Omega employees. The initial NOI and final amended NOI was a direct result of the ineffectiveness and poor leadership of CCA Louisiana.
quote:
David Cresson - it was apparent they had already struck a deal
David's annual compensation at CCA as Executive Director was $302,147
What a joke! 
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:57 pm to Novastar
You sound jealous. Dude worked his arse off.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 5:36 pm to Motorboat
I don’t have anything against David, I personally like the guy. When I say he caved, I’m not suggesting money exchanged hands, unless you talk about the money Daybrook and Omega gives Landry, Fat Billy, and at least two legislators that block any legislative attempts at regulation (Orgeron and Connick).
I suspect that David was told what the deal would be by Landry, there weren’t any negotiations. He should have told his membership this, instead, he took the fall (look at this thread). And don’t doubt behaving himself here helped get Landry’s endorsement for the LCA job that probably doubled his pay.
Typical Louisiana politics. Not much different than the oyster fishermen paying off Landry and Fat Boy to kill the diversion project, plus Landry got another chance to give Garrett Graves the finger. He’s as vindictive as they get.
I suspect that David was told what the deal would be by Landry, there weren’t any negotiations. He should have told his membership this, instead, he took the fall (look at this thread). And don’t doubt behaving himself here helped get Landry’s endorsement for the LCA job that probably doubled his pay.
Typical Louisiana politics. Not much different than the oyster fishermen paying off Landry and Fat Boy to kill the diversion project, plus Landry got another chance to give Garrett Graves the finger. He’s as vindictive as they get.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 8/11/25 at 3:26 pm to Icansee4miles
I am not surprised you know little about us, but it is also quite apparent that not only do you lack any in depth knowledge of CCA of Louisiana, but you know very little about the legislative process.
In addition, you seem to lack the ability to comprehend what you read. I never once said anything about CCA and its domicile. I told you correctly that CCA of Louisiana is domiciled in Texas, which makes it the only state chapter of CCA to be registered outside its state of operation.
If you think that legislative decisions are made at floor votes or committee hearings, you know very little about Louisiana politics or for that matter politics, generally. In addition, did you ever wonder why your cult leaders never have many people at public hearings, as opposed to the Omega’s of the world? I have been at federal and state hearings where your cult leaders have been asked questions which could not be answered. I have been at the same hearings where your cult leaders produced exhibits that looked like second grade artwork. I have also been at those same hearings when there was audible laughter when the “experts” your cult leaders mentioned were either not at all experts, or experts in the wrong field at issue in the hearing. I was also at these same hearings when your fearless leaders promised a presentation but failed to show.
If by a slim chance there is an undecided vote on a committee, subcommittee, reconciliation committee or floor, it usually goes to the group that has the largest presence. Your cult leaders don’t want many of its members present because it would expose how grossly unprepared, they are at these hearings/forums.
Now you are asking for “links” to our information. So let me see if I understand your request. You want me to give you everything we have worked so hard for since the late 80’s, which was gathered at our cost, using our resources, using our time, all of which is available to you through public records. You made this request, so you do not have to spend any time, any effort and any cost gathering the information yourself. Your request sounds like a microcosm of the Generation Y/Millennial society we live in- I deserve all you have, and I do not want to work or pay for it.
We either witnessed what happened, read about in transcripts derived from sworn testimony, and/or obtain the information through official government records.
Furthermore, my words have already been jungled to protect your cult leader, so why would I produce anything we have. Go do your own research, then form your own opinion. Louisiana Rev. Stat. 44.1 et. sec. and 5 USC 552 are very powerful tools, I suggest you use them.
In conclusion, you seemed to have time to make false accusations against us (whom you know nothing about) but failed to answer the real question:
Beside wearing overly starched red Columbia fish shirts, way too short shorts, girly belts and shoes, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
In addition, you seem to lack the ability to comprehend what you read. I never once said anything about CCA and its domicile. I told you correctly that CCA of Louisiana is domiciled in Texas, which makes it the only state chapter of CCA to be registered outside its state of operation.
If you think that legislative decisions are made at floor votes or committee hearings, you know very little about Louisiana politics or for that matter politics, generally. In addition, did you ever wonder why your cult leaders never have many people at public hearings, as opposed to the Omega’s of the world? I have been at federal and state hearings where your cult leaders have been asked questions which could not be answered. I have been at the same hearings where your cult leaders produced exhibits that looked like second grade artwork. I have also been at those same hearings when there was audible laughter when the “experts” your cult leaders mentioned were either not at all experts, or experts in the wrong field at issue in the hearing. I was also at these same hearings when your fearless leaders promised a presentation but failed to show.
If by a slim chance there is an undecided vote on a committee, subcommittee, reconciliation committee or floor, it usually goes to the group that has the largest presence. Your cult leaders don’t want many of its members present because it would expose how grossly unprepared, they are at these hearings/forums.
Now you are asking for “links” to our information. So let me see if I understand your request. You want me to give you everything we have worked so hard for since the late 80’s, which was gathered at our cost, using our resources, using our time, all of which is available to you through public records. You made this request, so you do not have to spend any time, any effort and any cost gathering the information yourself. Your request sounds like a microcosm of the Generation Y/Millennial society we live in- I deserve all you have, and I do not want to work or pay for it.
We either witnessed what happened, read about in transcripts derived from sworn testimony, and/or obtain the information through official government records.
Furthermore, my words have already been jungled to protect your cult leader, so why would I produce anything we have. Go do your own research, then form your own opinion. Louisiana Rev. Stat. 44.1 et. sec. and 5 USC 552 are very powerful tools, I suggest you use them.
In conclusion, you seemed to have time to make false accusations against us (whom you know nothing about) but failed to answer the real question:
Beside wearing overly starched red Columbia fish shirts, way too short shorts, girly belts and shoes, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
Posted on 8/11/25 at 4:44 pm to WillyL
Ok dude. Why are you spending so much on opposition research to CCA but refuse to reveal it? It’s weird and so are you.
Why is a conservation group trying to bash another conservation group? I find it fascinating. What is your end game? Do you want to be the best conservation group by taking down others?
You’re a strange cat. Hope your back doesn’t bruise from all the patting you’re giving it. You haven’t backed up shite so GTFO.
Why is a conservation group trying to bash another conservation group? I find it fascinating. What is your end game? Do you want to be the best conservation group by taking down others?
You’re a strange cat. Hope your back doesn’t bruise from all the patting you’re giving it. You haven’t backed up shite so GTFO.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:02 pm to Motorboat
I was a leader of a GCCA state during the gill net wars, and could write a book on all this.
Gulf Coast Conservation Group or GCCA to coast conservation group or CCA because they added some states that are not on the Gulf of America . Nothing really changed but that, exactly same leadership and people.
It has always been based in Houston.
The Louisiana chapter of CCA has historically been one if the strongest in the country. When Jeff Angers was your State Director in 90s you were as good as state.
The pogy boat issue is completely 100% political. They are entrenched more in Louisiana then they are in Mississippi but they are problem everywhere.
Gulf Coast Conservation Group or GCCA to coast conservation group or CCA because they added some states that are not on the Gulf of America . Nothing really changed but that, exactly same leadership and people.
It has always been based in Houston.
The Louisiana chapter of CCA has historically been one if the strongest in the country. When Jeff Angers was your State Director in 90s you were as good as state.
The pogy boat issue is completely 100% political. They are entrenched more in Louisiana then they are in Mississippi but they are problem everywhere.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 7:54 pm to TutHillTiger
Motorboat, you asked me what I have done and I told you, then you accuse me of patting myself on the back. Get off your lazy a$$ and do our on research.
Strangely though, not one thing I have stated has yet to be proven false., which can not be stated about the accusations you seem to make to support a bush league group prancing around acting like a conservation organization.
Noticeably, and despite three separate requests, you failed to tell us WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!
The old saying is so true. You make it difficult for me to have an intellectual argument with an unarmed man.
Strangely though, not one thing I have stated has yet to be proven false., which can not be stated about the accusations you seem to make to support a bush league group prancing around acting like a conservation organization.
Noticeably, and despite three separate requests, you failed to tell us WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!
The old saying is so true. You make it difficult for me to have an intellectual argument with an unarmed man.
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:41 pm to WillyL
quote:
Beside wearing overly starched red Columbia fish shirts, way too short shorts, girly belts and shoes, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
Very strange melt
Posted on 8/11/25 at 10:33 pm to No Colors
Willy is functionally retarded. He has had the exact same melt at least 3-4 times on here. CCA touched his whittle peepee once and he can’t get over it.
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:55 am to Icansee4miles
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Some of the most iconic fishing spots were gone, almost overnight. Meanwhile, Jindal raided nearly $20M in the Rigs to Reefs fund that had been donated by O&G when he was shaking the sofa cushions so he could say he didn’t raise taxes.
I do not remember CCA screaming about either one of these, both of which forever changed offshore fishing off of Louisiana.
I was in for a rude awakening a few years ago when we hit our red limit quickly and decided to go hit a couple of mangrove honey holes on the way in. We hit 3 different spots and all 3 rigs were gone with minimal structure left behind. Those rigs used to hold tons of 8-10 pounders
Posted on 8/12/25 at 7:56 am to Motorboat
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Willy is functionally retarded. He has had the exact same melt at least 3-4 times on here. CCA touched his whittle peepee once and he can’t get over it.
This reads like you're the one melting. Just an FYI.
Posted on 8/18/25 at 11:29 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Motorboat:
You know nothing about me, but you still make numerous false allegations.
You know nothing about our group, but you make false allegations about us.
You know nothing about CCA but make false claims about them.
Yet, you still failed to answer the question, I asked so many times.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
You know nothing about me, but you still make numerous false allegations.
You know nothing about our group, but you make false allegations about us.
You know nothing about CCA but make false claims about them.
Yet, you still failed to answer the question, I asked so many times.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
Posted on 8/18/25 at 12:20 pm to deeprig9
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Trump already signaled federal action on this, for foreign interests exploiting US waters and resources. Omega is Canadian I think. So maybe Trump will shut them down.
My understanding is that he was preparing to shut it down and Landy talked him out of it
Posted on 8/18/25 at 5:03 pm to Hobie101
The issue with the pogie boats is challenging for two primary reasons:
1) The politics of "jobs" in Empire and Abbeville. The senators in those districts will never allow any restrictions on the menhaden boats without a major fight because Omega and Daybrook are one of the only employers left in these places. It would be a serious black eye to these communities if the menhaden industry left. Its also going to be tough for Landry to explain away the loss of these jobs if something were to drive the industry away. In a state where our GDP is shrinking faster than all of our neighbors, no politician wants to be seen as a reason why any jobs are lost.
2) The public's understanding of the true impact of industrial menhaden fishing. Even reading this thread full of folks interested in the matter its clear no one really understands the true impact of the reduction industry. The bycatch study released recently doesnt tell the story, it just feeds the user conflict problem where coastal fishermen and communities see the isolated issues (dead bull reds, cloudy water, disturbed game fish in the area, etc). The BIG issue that no one is talking about is the fact that the industry removes over 1 billion pounds of menhaden from Louisiana waters every year and the impact that has on the marine ecosystem. Menhaden are one of the main building blocks of the food pyramid and when you remove 1 billion pounds annually it reduces the population of every other predator of menhaden from trout to reds to sharks to tarpon and even whales. A very hard bit of science to prove but technology and computer modeling in recent years have allowed the Atlantic states to regulate industrial menhaden with a total ecosystem approach, instead of by maximum sustainable yield approach used in Lousiana. The max sustainable yield approach simply asks "are we reducing the menhaden such that they cannot replace the amount we remove every year?" If the answer is no, then it is not considered overfished and no limits are in place. This is where we are in Louisiana. Removing 1 billion pounds of menhaden annually is not enough to prevent the population from recovering, but it is a huge impact on the rest of the ecosystem that woudl have consumed those billion pounds. Next time you are debating the merits of a 4 per person limit of redfish versus 5, remember that the population of reds would boom if the menhaden boats were banned and our schools of bulls could feed unencumbered on pogies like nature intended. The state is preventing people like you and me from keeping 5 redfish but allowing 2 foreign owned companies with only 400 employees in the state to remove an unlimited amount of biomass. Its totally backwards. The most obvious impact of the last 40 years of menhaden fishing concentraded in our state waters is the missing Tarpon. All of the big tarpon fishermen and women have moved to Mississippi because the fish dont stay in west delta or south marsh island like they used to before the pogie boats. There used to be big tarpon rodeos all the way from Cameron to Abbeville to Empire, not just the Grand Isle Rodeo. Its well known the tarpon schools are here to feed on pogie schools. When the big schools are totally wiped out by a purse sein boat assisted by spotter planes, the tarpon dont stay. That should be the real story told to the public and politicians. We aren't the sportsmans paradise like we used to be.
1) The politics of "jobs" in Empire and Abbeville. The senators in those districts will never allow any restrictions on the menhaden boats without a major fight because Omega and Daybrook are one of the only employers left in these places. It would be a serious black eye to these communities if the menhaden industry left. Its also going to be tough for Landry to explain away the loss of these jobs if something were to drive the industry away. In a state where our GDP is shrinking faster than all of our neighbors, no politician wants to be seen as a reason why any jobs are lost.
2) The public's understanding of the true impact of industrial menhaden fishing. Even reading this thread full of folks interested in the matter its clear no one really understands the true impact of the reduction industry. The bycatch study released recently doesnt tell the story, it just feeds the user conflict problem where coastal fishermen and communities see the isolated issues (dead bull reds, cloudy water, disturbed game fish in the area, etc). The BIG issue that no one is talking about is the fact that the industry removes over 1 billion pounds of menhaden from Louisiana waters every year and the impact that has on the marine ecosystem. Menhaden are one of the main building blocks of the food pyramid and when you remove 1 billion pounds annually it reduces the population of every other predator of menhaden from trout to reds to sharks to tarpon and even whales. A very hard bit of science to prove but technology and computer modeling in recent years have allowed the Atlantic states to regulate industrial menhaden with a total ecosystem approach, instead of by maximum sustainable yield approach used in Lousiana. The max sustainable yield approach simply asks "are we reducing the menhaden such that they cannot replace the amount we remove every year?" If the answer is no, then it is not considered overfished and no limits are in place. This is where we are in Louisiana. Removing 1 billion pounds of menhaden annually is not enough to prevent the population from recovering, but it is a huge impact on the rest of the ecosystem that woudl have consumed those billion pounds. Next time you are debating the merits of a 4 per person limit of redfish versus 5, remember that the population of reds would boom if the menhaden boats were banned and our schools of bulls could feed unencumbered on pogies like nature intended. The state is preventing people like you and me from keeping 5 redfish but allowing 2 foreign owned companies with only 400 employees in the state to remove an unlimited amount of biomass. Its totally backwards. The most obvious impact of the last 40 years of menhaden fishing concentraded in our state waters is the missing Tarpon. All of the big tarpon fishermen and women have moved to Mississippi because the fish dont stay in west delta or south marsh island like they used to before the pogie boats. There used to be big tarpon rodeos all the way from Cameron to Abbeville to Empire, not just the Grand Isle Rodeo. Its well known the tarpon schools are here to feed on pogie schools. When the big schools are totally wiped out by a purse sein boat assisted by spotter planes, the tarpon dont stay. That should be the real story told to the public and politicians. We aren't the sportsmans paradise like we used to be.
This post was edited on 8/18/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 8/22/25 at 7:26 pm to WillyL
We eliminated gill nets from Mississippi by convincing the CMR (was DMR then ) to only allow them to use biodegradable monofilament nets because we could document the “ghost net” problem. I have the death threats and property damage to prove it. Lol
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:58 am to redneck
The problem is not they are not following the rules set by the state.
It is the rules are screwing the states fishermen allowing the amount of by catch and proximity to the coast.
With all our small islands (now reefs) we need a buffer from the furthest point of land of 3 miles like every other state has.
It is the rules are screwing the states fishermen allowing the amount of by catch and proximity to the coast.
With all our small islands (now reefs) we need a buffer from the furthest point of land of 3 miles like every other state has.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:31 am to TrueBaldPate
Well said, WizardSleeve.
Motorboat, again, and despite nearly a half dozen requests, you failed to explain what you did. You are a typical kool-aid drinking CCA blowhard who loves to fill their mouth with lies about their cult organization, and attacks anybody who factually proves those statements false.
Since you failed to tell us what you have done, I will tell you. You and your buddies dress up in your clown suit (heavy starch CCA Columbia shirt, girly belt and shoes, and shorts which nearly impose your extremely small man parts) then attack anyone who walks into the Louisiana Sportsman Show and tell them how you got the gill nets banned in Louisiana.
Since you proved that you know very little, I will tell you what you get when you have a group of clowns ~ A Circus.
Motorboat, again, and despite nearly a half dozen requests, you failed to explain what you did. You are a typical kool-aid drinking CCA blowhard who loves to fill their mouth with lies about their cult organization, and attacks anybody who factually proves those statements false.
Since you failed to tell us what you have done, I will tell you. You and your buddies dress up in your clown suit (heavy starch CCA Columbia shirt, girly belt and shoes, and shorts which nearly impose your extremely small man parts) then attack anyone who walks into the Louisiana Sportsman Show and tell them how you got the gill nets banned in Louisiana.
Since you proved that you know very little, I will tell you what you get when you have a group of clowns ~ A Circus.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:21 am to Motorboat
I was told CCA gets a big check from a certain organization to fight the Menhaden industry in perpetuity. CCA needs a big villain to fight against and they have one. It’s in their best interest to not wipe them out completely but keep feeding the public small wins
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:42 am to hall59tiger
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I was told CCA gets a big check from a certain organization
From what organization? Who told you this?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:55 am to WillyL
Willy you’re just a clown at this point stating the same thing over and over. Show me where anything was proven in this thread. Links would be great.
Where are the facts? And that’s rich when you type this:
You’re really convincing us buddy. By now, everyone knows you’re full of shite.
What have I done?
Derelict crab trap pick ups
Floating island plantings
Outreach to schools/education
Attend hearings for snapper, trout regs, and pogies
Litter pick ups along waterways
Monetary donations
Write to policy makers
Legislative rodeo volunteer
Not to mention I’m down the bayou every weekend witnessing the destruction of our coast by our supposed coastal plan that picks winners and losers—see the terrebonne levee.
Speaking of losers, you are one. You can’t even come up with novel insults and you are melting before our eyes.
quote:
attacks anybody who factually proves those statements false.
Where are the facts? And that’s rich when you type this:
quote:
You and your buddies dress up in your clown suit (heavy starch CCA Columbia shirt, girly belt and shoes, and shorts which nearly impose your extremely small man parts) then attack anyone who walks into the Louisiana Sportsman Show and tell them how you got the gill nets banned in Louisiana.
You’re really convincing us buddy. By now, everyone knows you’re full of shite.
What have I done?
Derelict crab trap pick ups
Floating island plantings
Outreach to schools/education
Attend hearings for snapper, trout regs, and pogies
Litter pick ups along waterways
Monetary donations
Write to policy makers
Legislative rodeo volunteer
Not to mention I’m down the bayou every weekend witnessing the destruction of our coast by our supposed coastal plan that picks winners and losers—see the terrebonne levee.
Speaking of losers, you are one. You can’t even come up with novel insults and you are melting before our eyes.
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