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Posted by eyepooted
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 3:59 pm to
Those are minor. The first dog that you had a picture of, is he/she still around?

Well congrads on moving back to the south.
you happy about the move?
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:09 pm to
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and turkeys, turkeys will frick up some baby quail...


From what I've been told, and this could be wrong, it is not that big of a problem till you get south of Chattanooga. Why that is I have no idea, and it may just be a quail. As the guy who told it to me was talking about quail #s, so that kinda makes sense. But I don't know, haven't been quail hunting in over 4 years, and that was Oklahoma.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:10 pm to
Don't forget about fire ants and DDT.

My dad was an old horse back quail hunter from back in the day right around that Ft. Polk area. I hunted with him a few times in the late 80's and early 90's. At best then we were happy to find a covey every other hunt or so...

The problem with released birds is survivability... it just doesn't work. There are some private plantations that raise, release and shoot pen birds. It's not very sporting as they don't fly as fast and you just walk the dogs by feeders to find the birds.
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:19 pm to
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The problem with released birds is survivability... it just doesn't work


hey don't come in here and be pissin on my parade.


Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45848 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:29 pm to
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The problem with released birds is survivability...


That is true, that is why the guy I know releases thousands and thousands each year. Some make it, it is a numbers game...
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Well congrads on moving back to the south.
you happy about the move?
quote:

The first dog that you had a picture of, is he/she still around?


I was pretty excited till I drove from LC to BR two Fridays ago around 5.. that was a helluva reality check, as in I'm gonna be looking at property in P-Ville, near Gonzales, somewhere near river road.. worst comes to worst I'll rent something last minutes till I find something that I can live with.. probably move to El Cid

Yup, still kicking. Last one of his litter, his other brother we kept died of stomach cancer a couple of years ago, his sister ate some crazy arse flower and died about 7-8 years ago and his other brother died this summer of old age. There can be only one..

I'm gonna breed his son, (andy), with jenny. I got Andy and brothers baby batter frozen up down at LSU and VT, Andy's hunting skills mixed with Jenny's athleticism is gonna make for a pretty awesome bird dog.

Jenny is obsessed with getting high on top of things to survey stuff.. she is pretty nuts.



Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38878 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:34 pm to
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releases thousands and thousands each year. Some make it


I would like to know the percentage... I would seriously guess it's like 1%.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45848 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:36 pm to
If they can make it a week they stand a decent chance. I think they try to release before the raptors migrate south. If the new birds can find established birds their survival goes up a lot...
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:37 pm to
Im betting quail were here around the same amount of time we were. I know they are "the shrimp of the forest" but they do have some ability to survive.

Why can't the approach of Delta Waterfowl be taken(I understand it's not the exact same)...

Habitat Conservation
Predator control
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45848 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:40 pm to
Quail numbers were large in the 60 & 70's when there were 40 acre farms, limited bug and weedkiller being sprayed, raptors were being shot, trappers were running traps, etc.

quail need edges, not much in the way of edges on a 640 acre field...
Posted by aVatiger
Water
Member since Jan 2006
27967 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:48 pm to
We have some of the best grouse hunting in the country uo here until my dad's buddy made some deal with the state of Tennessee wildlife dept to trade grouse for elk.. we got the short end of the stick on that one
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45848 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 4:49 pm to
Never hunted grouse, but would love to make a trip north one year...
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 7:08 pm to
What do grouse taste like?

I don't even know if I could identify a grouse.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66523 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:03 am to
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Oh yeah, they come out the womb ready to hunt. Carson's uncle I believe use to breed them around Iona I think.. maybe it was Ville Platte


grandfather in church point. close

my dad's side is from ville platte, funny enough
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 4:35 am to
Great looking hounds. Make me miss my dad's. There are a couple of coveys still around where I live south of laffy. With all the shitty housing developments going up around here, they won't survive much longer.
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 7:19 am to
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GonePecan
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66523 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:37 am to
my grandpa has one named bandit right now. he buries everything. we give him a football, he buries it. he steals gloves and buries them

my grandpa has a bunch of doves. he occasionally lets them out and they always come back

one time we were working in the yard, and we see bandit walking to his "dig site" with a dove in his mouth.

he puts it on the ground and starts to dig. the dove starts walking back to it's pen.

bandit stops digging and goes to the dove and gently picks it up and brings it back. he puts it down and starts digging again

rinse and repeat until he tried burying the dove. we were dying laughing. surprised the dove wasnt more scared. we just grabbed him and put him back in the pen
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30868 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:01 pm to
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grandfather in church point. close

La Pointe De Eglisse
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30868 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:06 pm to
don't forget the ever changing habitat, farming practices and timber practices have been devastating to quail.

also I know there was one study that actually had footage of armadillos raiding quail nests.

and hogs..... hogs in many areas are the death knell for quail.

but - the numbers really started to plummet when.

farming EDGE TO EDGE and harvesting every sq inch.
the rise of the coyote, rise of armadillos, rise of hogs....

and lets not even start on feral cats.
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:04 pm to
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one time we were working in the yard, and we see bandit walking to his "dig site" with a dove in his mouth.

he puts it on the ground and starts to dig. the dove starts walking back to it's pen.

bandit stops digging and goes to the dove and gently picks it up and brings it back. he puts it down and starts digging again

rinse and repeat until he tried burying the dove. we were dying laughing. surprised the dove wasnt more scared. we just grabbed him and put him back in the pen
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