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re: How to determine if property is wetlands?

Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:41 am to
You will pay a pretty penny to have a consultant do a delineation.

Best bet is to find someone that used to do it that will do a preliminary look for free. I do those every now and then.

As for NRCS, that depends on the property. If it was ever in AG production, it will hage a determination. Depending on how old it is, it may be valid, it may not for Corps of Engineers purposes. NRCS determinations are for food security act compliance, so it could be 15 years old and still be good in their eyes.

With the Corps, that isn't the same story. A jurisdictional determination is only valid for 5 years.

Also, anyone that just looks at a map or soils map and tells you its wet or nonwet is doing you a disservice. There are very few instances where you can make a determination based on maps and soils solely, and those are typically things like marshes, swamps, etc. At best, they SHOULD only be telling you if it potentially has wetlands.

That's just my opinion, but that is the way I always worked with customers. Maps only tell you so much, and even NRCS will tell you field data should be taken to confirm soils. You can expand that to plants and hydrology as well. You need all 3 for a wetland.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:42 am
Posted by OMWsux
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:45 am to
Get a delineation done. You can get into some serious money if you have buy mitigation banking.
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:54 am to
contact tenfoe!
Posted by tacotiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
991 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:59 am to
good info. I have some property in west baton rouge with wetlands issues. As mentioned earlier the group CK surveyed it before before I purchased it. You can look at stuff that may seem to be only a small drainage ditch when actually it is classified as wetland. Need the professionals to weigh in so you stay out of trouble when manipulating the property. And in this same area the Corps has already fined the developer for doing things without permits.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25559 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:03 am to
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Factor in mitigation costs and show that to the seller as a bargaining chip before buying.


Chances are if wetlands mitigation is needed for the properties intended use the mitigation will cost more than the land.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
8448 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:06 am to
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tenfoe


Dude is on top of his game. Helped me out big time. like i said I'm so new to all this process and he was able to provide me with the information i needed.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46139 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:08 am to
He was just trying to figure out how many turkeys the property might hold...
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12934 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:34 am to
Yeah well, you hqve to be careful about what some people at the Corps will call a wetland too. If a ditch is dug on nom-hydric soils, it's not a wetland, and in some cases, not even jurisdictional.
Posted by POONHOUND
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:37 pm to
That's a fact! He is a smart fellow though, I'll give him that much. I know when it's turkey season when I get a call from him asking how I'm doing. I keed 10-fizzle
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:47 pm to
NRCS is good people
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Most consultants use plant life to determine wetlands.

It's typically vegetation, soil, and connectivity. the USACE has made a huge jurisdiction grab since I was in the wetland game.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2472 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:05 pm to
If Tenfoe can't get you what you need for some reason, contact me at lsuengr1@gmail.com. I am a civil engineer who designs residential and commercial developments. I have a guy who will do it on the side for cheap that I recommend to guys like you that aren't doing developments.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:17 pm to
Hijack Wanna hire me? sure I can learn developments
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Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2472 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:40 pm to
Shoot me an email. Always looking for good people who can produce good work.
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