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re: How to determine if property is wetlands?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:41 am to gsvar2004
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:41 am to gsvar2004
You will pay a pretty penny to have a consultant do a delineation.
Best bet is to find someone that used to do it that will do a preliminary look for free. I do those every now and then.
As for NRCS, that depends on the property. If it was ever in AG production, it will hage a determination. Depending on how old it is, it may be valid, it may not for Corps of Engineers purposes. NRCS determinations are for food security act compliance, so it could be 15 years old and still be good in their eyes.
With the Corps, that isn't the same story. A jurisdictional determination is only valid for 5 years.
Also, anyone that just looks at a map or soils map and tells you its wet or nonwet is doing you a disservice. There are very few instances where you can make a determination based on maps and soils solely, and those are typically things like marshes, swamps, etc. At best, they SHOULD only be telling you if it potentially has wetlands.
That's just my opinion, but that is the way I always worked with customers. Maps only tell you so much, and even NRCS will tell you field data should be taken to confirm soils. You can expand that to plants and hydrology as well. You need all 3 for a wetland.
Best bet is to find someone that used to do it that will do a preliminary look for free. I do those every now and then.
As for NRCS, that depends on the property. If it was ever in AG production, it will hage a determination. Depending on how old it is, it may be valid, it may not for Corps of Engineers purposes. NRCS determinations are for food security act compliance, so it could be 15 years old and still be good in their eyes.
With the Corps, that isn't the same story. A jurisdictional determination is only valid for 5 years.
Also, anyone that just looks at a map or soils map and tells you its wet or nonwet is doing you a disservice. There are very few instances where you can make a determination based on maps and soils solely, and those are typically things like marshes, swamps, etc. At best, they SHOULD only be telling you if it potentially has wetlands.
That's just my opinion, but that is the way I always worked with customers. Maps only tell you so much, and even NRCS will tell you field data should be taken to confirm soils. You can expand that to plants and hydrology as well. You need all 3 for a wetland.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:45 am to gsvar2004
Get a delineation done. You can get into some serious money if you have buy mitigation banking.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:59 am to Cowboyfan89
good info. I have some property in west baton rouge with wetlands issues. As mentioned earlier the group CK surveyed it before before I purchased it. You can look at stuff that may seem to be only a small drainage ditch when actually it is classified as wetland. Need the professionals to weigh in so you stay out of trouble when manipulating the property. And in this same area the Corps has already fined the developer for doing things without permits.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:03 am to lsufan112001
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Factor in mitigation costs and show that to the seller as a bargaining chip before buying.
Chances are if wetlands mitigation is needed for the properties intended use the mitigation will cost more than the land.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:06 am to POONHOUND
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tenfoe
Dude is on top of his game. Helped me out big time. like i said I'm so new to all this process and he was able to provide me with the information i needed.



Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:08 am to gsvar2004
He was just trying to figure out how many turkeys the property might hold...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:34 am to tacotiger
Yeah well, you hqve to be careful about what some people at the Corps will call a wetland too. If a ditch is dug on nom-hydric soils, it's not a wetland, and in some cases, not even jurisdictional.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:37 pm to wickowick
That's a fact! He is a smart fellow though, I'll give him that much. I know when it's turkey season when I get a call from him asking how I'm doing. I keed 10-fizzle
Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:54 pm to TimeOutdoors
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Most consultants use plant life to determine wetlands.
It's typically vegetation, soil, and connectivity. the USACE has made a huge jurisdiction grab since I was in the wetland game.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:05 pm to gsvar2004
If Tenfoe can't get you what you need for some reason, contact me at lsuengr1@gmail.com. I am a civil engineer who designs residential and commercial developments. I have a guy who will do it on the side for cheap that I recommend to guys like you that aren't doing developments.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:17 pm to LSUengr
Hijack Wanna hire me?
sure I can learn developments
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:40 pm to jimbeam
Shoot me an email. Always looking for good people who can produce good work.
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