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re: How screwed is my little pond?

Posted on 2/20/23 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by Royalfisher
Member since May 2022
459 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 6:23 pm to
They eat the crap out of everything and spawn like wild hogs. They don’t eat bream spawn so go after the bass and catfish spawn.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
5215 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 6:42 pm to
If you don’t or can’t eat them all, bury them under shrubs and trees or in your vege garden if you have one. Roses and gardenias love fish waste. High protein means high nitrogen, and the decompose rapidly.
Great under corn and tomatoes!
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5523 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 7:08 pm to
That is perfect whole frying size
Posted by specchaser
lafayette
Member since Feb 2008
2682 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:09 pm to
I have had a similar experience. They managed to get into the pond behind my house but haven't ever seemed to take over. Last year I caught two big ones and nothing more. But the spawning area is problematic for them (I think ). Somehow garfish and mullet made into the pond as well but everything including the bass seem healthy.
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
2030 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:47 pm to
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Why would bream (bluegill) affect bass spawning?


Blugill are public enemy #1 for bass and their spawning areas. If you fish ponds or lakes this time of year and see bass chasing fish off their beds making a huge wake along the shore 99% of the time it's bream they're chasing off. Bream eat the eggs and supposedly even the small bass fry.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72860 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

Blugill are public enemy #1 for bass and their spawning areas. If you fish ponds or lakes this time of year and see bass chasing fish off their beds making a huge wake along the shore 99% of the time it's bream they're chasing off. Bream eat the eggs and supposedly even the small bass fry.


But bluegill are the main forage species, particularly in small water. How would you do without them?

And ... isn't the elimination of small bass the whole goal of a good bass fishery?


No bluegill = no forage.
No bluegill = 10x more bass without any forage

= not a good bass fishery
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
2030 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 9:09 pm to
I was just saying that bluegill taking advantage of the bass spawn isn't ideal but it's inevitable. Bass do a pretty good job at keeping them at bay which is why it's so important to not take spawning bass off and away from their beds.
If you're culling poor genetics out of the pond by taking out the smaller ones all year, the last thing you want is for trophy fish fry and eggs to get feasted upon by bream storming the beds. I agree tho, no bream= no big bass unless there's literally a ton of larger shad in the area.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29849 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:30 am to
We've stocked black crappie in our pond for years. They never reproduce and once the numbers get low (i.e. you stop catching them) then just add some more in.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72860 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

We've stocked black crappie in our pond for years. They never reproduce and once the numbers get low (i.e. you stop catching them) then just add some more in.


Are you stocking some kind of sterile crappie? What's your pond like?

Mine is 4 acres and the black crappie reproduce like rabbits.



ETA- I just read a blog from Pond King talking about hybrid crappie that are good for small ponds, because their breeding rate is much lower than either of the pure species, and are less likely to completely take over a pond.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29849 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Are you stocking some kind of sterile crappie? What's your pond like?

Mine is 4 acres and the black crappie reproduce like rabbits.


I don't know what to tell you. We've had the pond for over 30 years. Deep on one end and shallow on the other. We've restocked the crappie probably 5-6 times over the year. Haven't caught one in two years so stocked them back again this fall.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72860 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:38 pm to
How many acres? Bass and catfish in the pond? What size are the stocked crappie?
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29849 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

How many acres?


My guess would be 3-4 acres. We sold dirt to build some bridges and had it designed where it is about 20ft on the deep end tapering up so stock would wade it in on the shallow end.

quote:

Bass and catfish in the pond?


Yes, and hybrid bluegill

quote:

What size are the stocked crappie?


The last I put in were 3-4". We have put in bigger and smaller over the years.

Whatever we catch they are always almost uniform in size.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18126 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 5:14 pm to
Yeah more or less been my experience that we just grew them out, I think the bass keep them in check as long as they don’t have a lot of thick brush to hide in from fry to juvenile.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4115 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

3-4 acres
Way bigger than mine….mine is under an acre.

I’ve read in many places putting crappie in a pond under 2 acres chokes out everything else. The bass in this pond are about 12-18” except a couple that I put in from other ponds. Not really enough to keep the crappie from multiplying.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72860 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

I’ve read in many places putting crappie in a pond under 2 acres chokes out everything else. The bass in this pond are about 12-18” except a couple that I put in from other ponds. Not really enough to keep the crappie from multiplying.


What are your coordinates? I'm not looking to poach your crappie, I got plenty in my own pond. Just curious of your position in Georgia.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4115 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:03 am to
I live in Ponte Vedra, FL.

And I would gladly have let you come poach these crappie.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 11:04 am
Posted by mrcoon
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
668 posts
Posted on 2/23/23 at 2:49 pm to
It's a black crappie. You good. If that sucker had stripes you may have a problem. We used to have a 4 acre pond that we put white crappie in not knowing the effect. They overpopulated very quickly.
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