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re: How much seed per acre food plot

Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:19 pm to
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:19 pm to
You are way overpaying for seed based on those prices, this is from Gatlin
Posted by SwampBooty
Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2015
789 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 9:46 pm to
Hate to hijack a thread but see some good knowledge in here. I have planted buck busters/turnips the past two years. My buddy with the tractor moved north so I’m out on equipment and I already have minimal time. We used to spray and bushhog. Then disc and plant. I have a way to borrow a 4 wheeler disc if needed.

However, I’m on a pipeline and the growth is noticeably thicker with different vegetation than what’s around so I figured from re seeding on soil that’s been fertilized recently years. So here’s the question. The pipeline usually gets bush hogged by a management company in September. Is there potential to plant and get anything after they cut without breaking soil? Or would I be better off just disc after they cut and plant/drag?

In Starks La and used to plant Labor Day weekend so I’m already way behind usual but life happens.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19533 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

You are way overpaying for seed based on those prices, this is from Gatlin


I haven’t bought my seed or fertilizer yet this year. I pulled those prices from Hancock Seed.

If my seed prices are less than the cost I listed then the savings versus paying $70/bag will be even more.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:19 pm to
I also plant a pipeline. I usually just disc without mowing and also use an atv disc. Takes a little longer, but I’d have to drive hours out of the way to pick up a tractor and my time is usually limited. I just disc up well and pull an old set of bed springs to level it off and then spread the seed and fertilizer. It’s always come out good.

As far as being late to plant, I wait until October a day or 2 before predicted rain. The first few weeks of the season I’m hunting over bare dirt, but by middle of November it looks great.
Posted by SwampBooty
Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2015
789 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:23 pm to
That’s good to hear. I’ll probably just borrow the disc right after the pipeline company bush hogs and call it good. Thank you!
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19533 posts
Posted on 9/4/25 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

In Starks La and used to plant Labor Day weekend so I’m already way behind usual but life happens.


That far south you can plant into November. I am way north of you, and won’t start for several weeks, end of September/first of october.

You can “throw and mow”. I have never done it but I am sure there is lots of info on the internet. Wheat will germinate and grow a little in the bed of a truck or trailer after it gets wet. I bet you could spray and mow your plot, spread your seed and fertilizer before a rain, and grow a huntable greenfield.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2711 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 3:07 am to
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hey don’t list a mix with everything in it that buck busters has, but they have recommended rates for blends that contain most of the seeds. Here is what buck busters consists of. It is a little sketchy they don’t tell you percentages like pretty much every other seed company. But anyway, here is what buck busters contains.


You could be right, but I don’t see how you would know or even guess what their percentages could be. There is a reason they don’t list the percentages.

I am like you though. I mix my own mixes and know what I am planting as long as the companies don’t screw me over or my drill messes up.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17731 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:45 am to
quote:

You could be right, but I don’t see how you would know or even guess what their percentages could be. There is a reason they don’t list the percentages.


But they do list the percentages, right on the tag , here is a good illustration

Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12396 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:52 am to
I’ve been really impressed by how well it re-seeds. I work the dirt like it owes me money and I still have pockets of it that comeback every year.

I did have a question though.

I carved out a new plot this year and the soil sample sent to LSU calls for 180lbs of Nitrogen, 100lbs of Phosphate, and 120lbs of Potash per acre. Any issues with applying that at planting?

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19533 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:37 am to
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You could be right, but I don’t see how you would know or even guess what their percentages could be. There is a reason they don’t list the percentages.


I have a pretty good guess because if you look at all the different brands of mixes, they are all fairly close. The grains (wheat/oats/triticale/rye) make up the bulk of it, and then the clover/rape/peas/chicory is 5-20% of the blend.

Like I said, if 50# will truly plant an acre, it needs to be super heavy on rape and clover. If so, I don’t want it anyway. Clover is great. It is great for the deer. But it really grows best the following spring, not in the winter when you are hunting over it. And as noted earlier, I dislike rape in general, though I will throw a pound in just to have something different. But if you plant a field heavy in rape you will have a shitty field come January. And, if there is a ton of clover/rape mixed in; there is no way to cover your grain seed without covering your clover and rape way to deep to germinate. You are wasting a ton of money on that rape and clover. You want to cover your grain seed at least an inch, no more than 1-5-2 inches. You want to cover clover and rape a 1/2” deep or less. Top sowing works just fine too.

So no, I cannot tell you exactly what buckbusters percentages are. But I would bet it is majority wheat/triicale/rye (with more wheat than anything) and 3-10# of clover and rape.

ETA: I just saw someone posted the mix, but it is too grainy for me to make out. Would anyone be gracious enough to list the “ingredients” by percentage? I am curious how it compares to the WMS blends. I admit, while I mix the bulk of my seed with “generic”, I do buy several bags of WMS Mississippi Blend to mix in on our better/bigger/prettier fields.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19533 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:48 am to
So if I squint I think I see their “fall seed mix” is:

Wheat: 24% (12 pounds)
Triticale: 21% (10.5 pounds)
Rye: 21% (10.5 pounds)
Winter peas: 25% (12.5 pounds)
Clover: 2.7% (1.35 pounds)
Rape: 5.7% (2.85 pounds)

Definitely plant two bags/acre.


Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
2950 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:01 am to
We’re not discing ground this fall. After reading posts on deerhunterforum, we’re broadcasting triticale, dundale peas and forage kale and sta green with iron into the overgrown plots/roads and simply bush hogging. The pics posted on that forum look impressive, we’ll see.
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
5512 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:36 am to
Can you post a link to that forum’s thread?
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
2950 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:14 am to
I tried. Throw and mow thread is the title. It’s under food plots for wildlife on deerhunterforum. There are plenty threads with good info, well worth the time reading.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19533 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 10:36 am to
Can you post pics of the fields through the season and post them here?
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
2950 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 11:37 am to
I’ll try.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2711 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

But they do list the percentages, right on the tag , here is a good illustration


It wasn’t listed under “Seed Blend” in the link that was posted , so I figured it didn’t list them at all.

I figured wrong.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2711 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

o if I squint I think I see their “fall seed mix” is: Wheat: 24% (12 pounds) Triticale: 21% (10.5 pounds) Rye: 21% (10.5 pounds) Winter peas: 25% (12.5 pounds) Clover: 2.7% (1.35 pounds) Rape: 5.7% (2.85 pounds) Definitely plant two bags/acre.


I guess you have more experience with those pre-mixed blends and could make those assumptions, and it seems they were right. Even going back to when I was a teenager we mixed our own blends.

I don’t think I have ever bought/planted/helped with a pre-made blend that I/we didn’t specifically tell them the rates of seeds I/we wanted. Seems crazy to say that, but I believe I am right on that. The closest thing I can think of to being one would be an Equip program where they gave us the seeds to plant for pollinator mixes.

Definitely agree that “I would” plant 2 bags of the mix and then add another 50lbs/A of straight wheat. And that is if I was drilling or disking, cultipack, spread and then cultipack again. If no cultipacker, then I would spread 3 bags, the wheat and hope and pray something ate all the rape as soon as it germinates.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
19533 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 6:52 pm to
What is your preferred blend?
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17731 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 7:18 pm to
Picture can out very blurry but this is what it says
Buck busters fall mix
Wheat 24% (EK 102)
Elbon rye 21%
Triticale 21%
Peas 25% (Forage 4010)
Crimison clover 2.7%
Rape 5.1% (range , bayou, barscia)

Buck Busters premium
Wheat 22% (EK 102)
Elbon rye 20%
Triticale 20%
Peas 25% (Forage 4010)
Crimison clover 2.5% and 1% of some other clover I can not read
Rape 4.5% (range , bayou, giant)
Chickory 1%
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