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re: Home Defense Gun Advice

Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:56 pm to
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Let's face it - revolvers are as obsolete as break open, single shot shotguns or bolt action rifles are for self-defense. Just because something is obsolete, doesn't mean it can't be effective.

But, from a pure cost/benefit/effectiveness standpoint, quality semis are better than revolvers in every objective way - possibly excepting manual of arms and maintenance requirements. They have a place, but in traditional configurations (mainly full-size .357 service revolvers and 5-shot .38 +P), not a gimmicky, "kill snakes with a specialty weapon" product like The Judge.



So I don't have to sell my S&W .357 revolver and by a Glock?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:59 pm to
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So I don't have to sell my S&W .357 revolver and by a Glock?


Negative. If you get into a fight with a guy who has a Glock, his advantages will be: more capacity, faster follow up shots and faster reloading.

BUT, (assuming you're an educated man and carry 6, 7 or 8 Federal 357B in the cylinder) your shot placement with your "obsolete" firearm will trump his Austrian engineering.

Shot placement > any other factor in a gunfight.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:59 pm to
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Its clear place is to kill snakes at close range. I literally wouldn't use it for anything else, unless I had no choice.



You must have never shot one then, cause it's definitely not werfashit shooting snakes at close range, even with 7's in there, it can't keep em' tight enough.

However, I'd bet good money that a perps arse would get hit a few times crawling through somebodys bedroom window. I ain't getting into y'all's brouhaha, but, that is a fact.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 2:01 pm
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11891 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:59 pm to
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So I don't have to sell my S&W .357 revolver and by a Glock?


All semi autos are Glocks?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89531 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:02 pm to
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You must have never shot one then, cause it's definitely not werfashit shooting snakes at close range, even with 7's in there, it can't keep em' tight enough.


So, it is ineffective to even kill snakes - a purpose for which it appears to be intended. Interesting.

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However, I'd bet good money that a perps arse would get hit a few times crawling through somebodys bedroom window.


So you put it slightly above throwing rocks at someone, and well below a true defensive handgun?

About where I place it as well. Got it.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:09 pm to
"It appears to be intended",, to who, you?
The rest was just as bad, not worth quoting.
Your reading comprehension is amazing. Nice day.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:15 pm to
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Nice day.


There are 3 kinds of OBers.

Those who pimp the judge and those who do not.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:38 pm to
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Ideal? When did that enter this? Less effective?


He asked for a good recommendation for home defense. Why wouldn't I advise the most effective gun and advise AGAINST a gun which is less effective?
Just remember how this started and who asserted what...
quote:

But anyone who has any firearms experience knows if someone recommends The Judge that they bought into BS hype and aren't real shooters.
I think you're going overboard here.


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I'm obviously not going to "win" this
True
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
7710 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:47 pm to
I have a 4.5 inch XDM 40 with a 16 round magazine in my nightstand. If I can't kill it with 16 rounds of 40 then it's not meant to die.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Negative. If you get into a fight with a guy who has a Glock, his advantages will be: more capacity, faster follow up shots and faster reloading.

BUT, (assuming you're an educated man and carry 6, 7 or 8 Federal 357B in the cylinder) your shot placement with your "obsolete" firearm will trump his Austrian engineering.

Shot placement > any other factor in a gunfight.


Plus I can shoot him right on through that open car door they always show people hiding behind in the movies!!!

I kid, I kid...... Shooting through walls and doors is a concern. I live in a brick house so that helps protect the neighbors, but I have a wife and 2 kids so shot placement is critical.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56288 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:02 pm to
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There are 3 kinds of OBers. Those who pimp the judge and those who do not.
what the third?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:03 pm to
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As for needing more than 10 rounds of 124gr +P 9mm?


I have the aftermarket 15-rounders for my Hi-Point.

And 20 more in my Beretta Storm.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:08 pm to
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Shot placement > any other factor in a gunfight.


"Speed is fine, but accuracy is final."
Posted by lsuguru
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2007
1782 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:03 pm to
Keltec KSG 12 gauge with 13 rounds of buckshot in it. Ur welcome
Posted by CougarBait
on catnip in a cougar's den
Member since Jun 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:50 pm to
Saiga 12 with 20 red drum full of buckshot. Colt Delta Elite as backup.
Posted by DuppyConqueror84
Member since Nov 2012
382 posts
Posted on 11/5/15 at 7:14 am to
If i were breaking into someone's home, my worst fear would be would be a 12 ga slinging buckshot or another defense round. So i keep a benelli m2 tactical within arms reach. My wife has a 20 ga under her side of the bed.
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