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Help please...Planting Ryegrass
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:45 am
a little background first...
I'm excited about living in a new house in the country from our starter home in the middle of BR, especially so the boys can experience 'country life'. Our new (to us) home backs up to about 250 acres of hard woods. I'm trying to plant a ryegrass behind my house, over the now doormat St. Augustine.
So...I'm planning on cutting tonight, and setting the mower deck relatively low (about 2"), then seeding on top of that and watering heavily. I don't have a tractor and can't till up the soil. The ground might be wet enough so the seeds dissolve enough to get into the soil from our last heavy rain. And hopefully, next weekends rain won't wash it all away.
I've always heard to plant around Thanksgiving or when temperatures won't exceed 80 degrees. Is this right? Judging by the forecast, I think I'm safe to go ahead.
Is there any fertilizer I should consider?
Are there any do's & don't when planting on top of St. Augustine? Separate seasons, so they should be ok right?
Does ryegrass do OK in shady & damp areas?
Just thought I'd check with fellow ranters, any help would be greatly appreciated.
I'm excited about living in a new house in the country from our starter home in the middle of BR, especially so the boys can experience 'country life'. Our new (to us) home backs up to about 250 acres of hard woods. I'm trying to plant a ryegrass behind my house, over the now doormat St. Augustine.
So...I'm planning on cutting tonight, and setting the mower deck relatively low (about 2"), then seeding on top of that and watering heavily. I don't have a tractor and can't till up the soil. The ground might be wet enough so the seeds dissolve enough to get into the soil from our last heavy rain. And hopefully, next weekends rain won't wash it all away.
I've always heard to plant around Thanksgiving or when temperatures won't exceed 80 degrees. Is this right? Judging by the forecast, I think I'm safe to go ahead.
Is there any fertilizer I should consider?
Are there any do's & don't when planting on top of St. Augustine? Separate seasons, so they should be ok right?
Does ryegrass do OK in shady & damp areas?
Just thought I'd check with fellow ranters, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:57 am to LSU4ea
all i know is if you screw up ryegrass... you need to stop trying. It will literaly grow on the bed of the truck
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:13 am to oleyeller
Scracth the ground a little....sometimes as little as with a piece of old hurricane fence pulled behind an ATV with a weight on it. Sew it out generously and leave it alone.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:26 am to OleBallCoach
If you are broadcasting over St. Aug, you do not need to scratch the ground.
On Oct. 17th, used Scott fertilizer spreader to put out 50 pounds over St. Aug (do it every year)in Mandeville area.
Ran sprinkler that afternoon. On following Sunday, had areas already two inches tall.
Now entire yard as green as a gourd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No need to complicate rye grass. As the man said, it will grow on tail gate of a truck. Water is the key to germination.
On Oct. 17th, used Scott fertilizer spreader to put out 50 pounds over St. Aug (do it every year)in Mandeville area.
Ran sprinkler that afternoon. On following Sunday, had areas already two inches tall.
Now entire yard as green as a gourd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No need to complicate rye grass. As the man said, it will grow on tail gate of a truck. Water is the key to germination.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:28 am to shilohsharps1874
You want to fertilize it, go to feed store and buy a sack of ammonia nitrate and hit it with that after it gets going.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:36 am to LSU4ea
quote:
I'm trying to plant a ryegrass behind my house, over the now doormat St. Augustine
Spread and water, cant mess up ryegrass.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:40 am to shilohsharps1874
Don't use ammonium nitrate for that application. He's not feeding livestock. 13-13-13 or 8-8-8 will feed it for approx six weeks and it's very safe.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:43 am to shilohsharps1874
Don't use ammonium nitrate for that application. He's not feeding livestock. 13-13-13 or 8-8-8 will feed it for approx six weeks and it's very safe.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:50 am to windmill
quote:agree with 13-13-13
Don't use ammonium nitrate for that application. He's not feeding livestock. 13-13-13 or 8-8-8 will feed it for approx six weeks and it's very safe.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:57 am to mylsuhat
quote:
agree with 13-13-13
Posted on 11/3/15 at 12:07 pm to LSU4ea
Just broadcast the seed and triple 13. They are saying we will get less than an inch of rain this weekend so I wouldn't worry about it running off unless its on a steep hill.
I have rye grass growing in the gravel where I park my truck from seeds spilled along with in the bed of my truck and floorboard ( more dirt on floorboard than bed)
I have rye grass growing in the gravel where I park my truck from seeds spilled along with in the bed of my truck and floorboard ( more dirt on floorboard than bed)
Posted on 11/3/15 at 12:57 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Depending on what you're looking for, annual ryegrass (most commonly found at Lowes/Walmart etc and intended for livestock) will not make a pretty lawn. Sure it will grow like crazy and be bright green, but it will be saturated with water look shaggy, and will not take to mowing very well. Perennial, turf-type ryegrass is what sports fields and golf courses overseed with and looks nice as a lawn grass. Sometimes Lowe's will have it, but you may have to hunt around for it. It is much more expensive, and unlike its name, does not return year after year(at least not in this climate).
Also a word of advice, whatever you do go with, either spray kill it or cut it very short as soon as things start warming up, to allow your summer grass to come back. Otherwise the rye will survive well into the spring/early summer, and by the time it dies off by itself, your summer grass will have been out-competed, patchy and weedy. That's my experience.
Also a word of advice, whatever you do go with, either spray kill it or cut it very short as soon as things start warming up, to allow your summer grass to come back. Otherwise the rye will survive well into the spring/early summer, and by the time it dies off by itself, your summer grass will have been out-competed, patchy and weedy. That's my experience.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:16 pm to oleyeller
thanks everyone for all your opinions, particularly this one...
I feel "slightly" better about my chances.
quote:
if you screw up ryegrass... you need to stop trying. It will literaly grow on the bed of the truck
I feel "slightly" better about my chances.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:24 pm to LSU4ea
LSU4, you can't screw this up buddy. I'd give some advice but it all seems to be covered. I've had it sprout in the bed of my truck in a pile of beer cans, cigarette butts, and leaves.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:27 pm to JJBTiger2012
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LSU4, you can't screw this up buddy. I'd give some advice but it all seems to be covered
Just remember grass grows on bridges....this cannot be screwed up.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 4:36 pm to LSU4ea
Throw it on the ground.....
THE END.....
THE END.....
Posted on 11/3/15 at 7:27 pm to LSU4ea
Make sure to purchase the 'short' rye seeds, NOT the seed for pastures which is the 'long' rye grass seeds.
You can usually find it at your local feed and seed place or nursery
You can usually find it at your local feed and seed place or nursery
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:41 pm to LSU4ea
the only thing that needs to happen is for the seed to stay in contact with some moisture, so don't sling it out with your grass wet....or you can drag something over it once dry to knock it down into the turf...
regardless, it is exceedingly easy to grow.
one word of warning though...be prepared to work your arse off in the spring keeping it cut, as it will grow like a half inch per day until the heat kills it back.
regardless, it is exceedingly easy to grow.
one word of warning though...be prepared to work your arse off in the spring keeping it cut, as it will grow like a half inch per day until the heat kills it back.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:25 am to Spankum
Noted...thanks
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