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re: Gun laws don't lower violent crime or even make guns harder to obtain. SHOCKER!
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:20 pm to stewie
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:20 pm to stewie
As knife crime has sky rocketed....hmmm I'm beginning think maybe we just need to take into account that crazy people kill other people generally
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Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:28 pm to stewie
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Do us all a favor... Turn off the TV and actually read our Constitution...word for word because its quite evident that Fox News owns you
You have got to be fricking kidding me.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
You're not even quoting the right document you waste of brain power.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 2:55 pm to stewie
In the words of our favorite Jarhead,
Take a napalm bath and strike a match, you fricking failed abortion.
Go troll somewhere else.
Take a napalm bath and strike a match, you fricking failed abortion.
Go troll somewhere else.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:07 pm to stewie
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stewie
Trolls gon' troll.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:11 pm to bapple
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:11 pm to bapple
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:12 pm to stewie
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Yahoo article on the matter
AIG stats
I'm finding some differ stats from what you are posting
Please read my msg again. The 2nd quote is violent homicide not gun related homicide.
From your link:
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There has been a pronounced change in the type of weapons used in homicide since monitoring began. Firearm use has declined by more than half since 1989-90 as a proportion of homicide methods, and there has been an upward trend in the use of knives and sharp instruments, which in 2006-07 accounted for nearly half of all homicide victims.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:20 pm to bbvdd
And to make my point here is the chart:
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:23 pm to DrTyger
Love it, Doc.
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bbvdd
I love real stats and not emotionally-charged statements.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:25 pm to bapple
People are going to kill regardless I think is what gun grabbers need to realize
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:31 pm to stewie
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I think it does a good job pointing out that gun regs can have a substantial impact on reducing gun violence
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It also refutes your point that gun reg don't and never will work
My point: "Gun laws don't lower violent crime"
So you actually need to pay better attention to what you read and watch.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:40 pm to Bleeding purple
But guys, it's for the children.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:48 pm to DrTyger
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. You're not even quoting the right document you waste of brain power.
And where in that sentence does it say we have an unalienable right to own/possess guns (which is what the previous poster was refering to?)
Do we have some unalienable rights? Debatable (since they all can be infringed upon for various reasons), is the right to own a gun one of them? No
The same goes for you DrTyger...lay of the Fox News
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:53 pm to stewie
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The same goes for you DrTyger...lay of the Fox News
Don't watch it. Never have.
I'd tell you to lay off whatever you're smoking but I kind of hope you overdose.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:02 pm to DrTyger
It's time to play the "Ignore Stewie" game.
That dude will just go on and on and on....
That dude will just go on and on and on....
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:02 pm to stewie
Stewie, while I know you're trolling, I'll leave you with one last thought...
Obama is the best gun salesman in history and has been responsible for millions of background checks since his Feb 2008 election. This figure also does not reflect multiple gun purchases, which only require one check, or sales where a concealed carry permit acted as the background check.
So why has violent crime still been decreasing with millions more firearms in circulation? Guns in the right hands due to laws that promote freedom and responsible gun ownership usually result in freedom and responsible gun ownership.
Obama is the best gun salesman in history and has been responsible for millions of background checks since his Feb 2008 election. This figure also does not reflect multiple gun purchases, which only require one check, or sales where a concealed carry permit acted as the background check.
So why has violent crime still been decreasing with millions more firearms in circulation? Guns in the right hands due to laws that promote freedom and responsible gun ownership usually result in freedom and responsible gun ownership.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:10 pm to bapple
Why is it liberals want to solve someone elses problems by taking something from me? I dont give a shite if people in Chicago want to kill each other thats not my problem. Go to their communities and talk to them, matter fact stewie take this shite to the poliboard and go play with the other trolls. This is a good board we dont need people like you stinking up the place.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:13 pm to bbvdd
I think the point of many anit-gun advocates is the capacity to do major harm very quickly. (Homicide rate/chart above)
Yeah, you can't stop all violence. You can reduce ability for mass violence.
And to that fact, since major gun regs, there hasn't been a mass shooting in kangaroo land.
I'm not saying what Australia will work here. I wanted to point out that developments are being made in various places...keep ideas circulating.
It's better to keep ahead of the arguments/ideas than try and stonewall them.
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:16 pm to stewie
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Yeah, you can't stop all violence. You can reduce ability for mass violence.
What would you suggest be done after the Boston bombing? Ban backpacks from holding pressure cookers?
You cannot legislate away evil. And you cannot stifle the criminal element by making it harder for law abiding people to defend themselves.
Just like Hypnos said, there are millions upon millions of gun owners that have never hurt anyone. We are not responsible for any of the mass killings in the past.
Sheeples gon' sheeple...
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:16 pm to bapple
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bapple
I see all of that and just get PISSED!!!
because I didn't buy stock in any gun/ammo manufacturers before Obama was elected. Granted I was broke because wife was in med school and I'd just started a new job...
Someone is raking in the $$$$$ on the backs of some of you.
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