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Glock 26 FTF issue

Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:31 am
So I took my brand new G26 out on Saturday and encountered a concerning issue with multiple failures to feed. Had three 10 round mags and two 33 round mags with me. The first 10 rounder had no issues. The next two 10 rounders had 3 FTFs each, one 33 rounder had 4 and one had 5. Tried different ammo and had a buddy shoot it with the same problem, too.

Called Glock this morning and they're sending me a new recoil spring to try. We put a hair over 100 rounds through it Saturday. The Glock rep said to try about 200 and see if that loosened it up with the new spring. Also said that 115gr 9mm rounds might be too light. Really hoping the last part isn't true because I have a shite-ton of 115gr 9mm. Anyone else ever encounter this? Should the spring fix the problem? Should 115gr really be "too light"?
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22823 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:34 am to
How much experience do you have with handguns? Is it possible you were limp wristing?

Also, were all mags factory glock mags? or aftermarket?

What kinda ammo were you using?
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 10:36 am
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27019 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:44 am to
Was the spent case ejected all the way and the new round were not feeding?

Or where the spent cases not ejecting cleanly?

Just wanting to clarify.


I have not had that issue with any of mine. Also, did you add a drop of oil to the rails or clean it before shooting?
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
4924 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:45 am to
Needs a lighter spring or hotter ammo IMO.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:50 am to
quote:

How much experience do you have with handguns? Is it possible you were limp wristing?


I'm not a tactical pro, but I have shot plenty and this is the first time I've ever run into this. I considered that possibility, hence why I had my buddy try it and nothing changed.

quote:

Also, were all mags factory glock mags? or aftermarket?


Yes, I only buy the factory Glock mags. The three 10 rounders are the ones that came in the box with it.

quote:

What kinda ammo were you using?


Sellier & Bellot, Speer and Remington, all FMJ.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
22823 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:53 am to
I've probably shot close to 10k rds through various glocks over the year and can probably count on 1 hand the number of FTF or FTE, and it was also using cheap steel cased ammo. I've never had to worry about any type of break in period with new Glocks.


The good news is Glock will 100% make it right if you keep having issues.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Was the spent case ejected all the way and the new round were not feeding?

Or where the spent cases not ejecting cleanly?



Yeah, the spent casing ejected fine. One time, I recall it failed to go into battery all the way, then suddenly it did on its own. I only remember that happening once. The rest of the time, I would pull the trigger on the next round and get nothing.

quote:

Also, did you add a drop of oil to the rails or clean it before shooting?


I did. Actually did a full cleaning and re-lubing the night before taking it out.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Needs a lighter spring or hotter ammo IMO.



They're sending me the same spring, just a new one. Not sure if they suspect the original to be faulty or what.

Hotter ammo as in +P?
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:26 am to
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This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 1:22 am
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:35 am to
quote:

I've shot plenty of S&B


This is my go-to stuff. No issue from any of my other guns. I'm hoping it's just a break-in thing. I'll pop in the new spring and give it a whirl and see if it continues.

One thing I noticed on the Glock is that the feed ramp is just matte black, whereas on my Walthers, it is nicely polished. I suppose that's just a normal variance between the two, but thought it was interesting.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2528 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:54 am to
Did you clean the gun before you took it out? Most manufacturers put a lot of grease on the slides that can gunk up if you don't clean it off before you go shoot. I don't see it so much with glocks, but it could be something to look at.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Did you clean the gun before you took it out? Most manufacturers put a lot of grease on the slides that can gunk up if you don't clean it off before you go shoot. I don't see it so much with glocks, but it could be something to look at.




Yeah, I did a thorough cleaning and lube the night before I took it out. Honestly, it was pretty dry out of the box. Do Glocks tend to run better dry? I've heard that, but wasn't sure.
Posted by alterego55
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2016
1441 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 1:18 pm to
next time use hi-point. no problems there
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2528 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Do Glocks tend to run better dry? I've heard that, but wasn't sure.


Glocks run wet or dry. I don't think I've ever had a FTF or FTE with a glock that wasn't ammo related. My bet would be limp wristing. That's not a knock on you or your buddy. I've seen it happen to a lot of people, myself included. If it's not that then you may have a bad magazine. Do you have them marked so you know which one could be causing problems.

quote:

Should 115gr really be "too light"?


Absolutely not. I bet 90% of people shoot 115gr out of their glocks. I've shot thousands and thousands of 115. I honestly can't believe they would even say that.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

I don't think I've ever had a FTF or FTE with a glock that wasn't ammo related.


And I considered this, of course, but I sorta tend to feel it wasn't the ammo just on using a couple of different brands and all of those brands being "good stuff".

quote:

My bet would be limp wristing. That's not a knock on you or your buddy. I've seen it happen to a lot of people, myself included.


This is certainly possible. The size of the gun is something I have to get used to and it could have been me trying to subconsciously adjust my grip while shooting that caused it. One of my Walthers is a PPS M2 which is similarly sized, though, hence why I found it unlikely. I just got a couple of 12 round mags with the pinky extension, so I'll see if anything changes with that.

quote:

you may have a bad magazine. Do you have them marked so you know which one could be causing problems.


Honestly, I didn't even think to mark them, but since 4 of the 5 had the same issue, I'm leaning toward it not being the mags. At first, I expected that this was the issue. After nearly all of them did it, nah. Probably not.

quote:

Absolutely not. I bet 90% of people shoot 115gr out of their glocks. I've shot thousands and thousands of 115. I honestly can't believe they would even say that.


Yeah, I was honestly a little shocked at that statement. One of the things I've always heard about Glocks is their reliability in pretty much any conditions and with just about any ammo. I told the guy that I was really hoping the spring fixes it because I've got thousands of rounds of 115gr FMJ and that's useless if the gun won't eat it.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17793 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Yeah, I did a thorough cleaning and lube the night before I took it out. Honestly, it was pretty dry out of the box. Do Glocks tend to run better dry? I've heard that, but wasn't sure.


Did you remove the copper anti-seize from the slide and frame rails? It's not just there for long-term lubrication but also aids in break-in. I have never had a FTF with my 26, every brand of new and re-man 9mm FMJ or HP has gone bang. It still has traces of the original copper grease too.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4065 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

I've always heard about Glocks is their reliability
That's their biggest selling point. It should shoot whatever you put in it. It's either you or the pistol. Hopefully the recoil spring helps.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

Did you remove the copper anti-seize from the slide and frame rails? It's not just there for long-term lubrication but also aids in break-in.


I’m pretty certain I did. I didn’t see much of anything anywhere, so I treated it just like I would if I had just been out shooting it. Used Froglube solvent (trying to get rid of the last of that) and Slip2000 when relubing. Did I screw it up?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Hopefully the recoil spring helps.


I certainly hope so. I like the gun. It feels great and the pinky extension mags I received today are even better. Would like to shift to it being my EDC, but need to know it’s going to go bang when needed.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19533 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:17 am to
quote:

Glocks run wet or dry.


I know this is crazy talk on the OB but read the manual. I was very surprised to learn that Glock recommends very little lubricant and only in certain places. I have been told that it is absolutely possible to over lube these pistols and cause issues. I stick to the factory recommended procedure and have never had an issue. Not saying that’s it but Glock does have a factory prescribed system of putting single drops of lube at certain spots and it certainly isn’t a lot.
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