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Generator for the Camp
Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:19 pm
I have a camp in the Marsh near Golden Meadow. It used to be on shore power but the line is old and blows the transformer every time a stiff wind blows. We are looking to put in a generator but don't know exactly what to get. I am thinking that a 30 KW diesel might do the trick but would love to hear what the ole baws have to say. I have found a used kabota powered 30KW diesel with a 100 gallon tank for 8000 dollars.
The camp is 4 bed 3 bath 2400 square feet with central air, electric stove, microwave, fridge, dryer, washer, electric water heater, water pump, etc. There is also another 1200 square foot camp that may be eventually hooked up to it.
Mais what yall think.
The camp is 4 bed 3 bath 2400 square feet with central air, electric stove, microwave, fridge, dryer, washer, electric water heater, water pump, etc. There is also another 1200 square foot camp that may be eventually hooked up to it.
Mais what yall think.
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:47 pm to wildeaux
30KW at 240vac is only good for 125amps so that should give you an idea of what to expect. Do you use any propane or is it all electric?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:06 pm to Barneyrb
All electric.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:08 pm to wildeaux
How often is the camp used? The fuel bill on that sized camp, if it is used a lot would be high...
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:19 pm to wickowick
Every weekend. The guy who owns the generator I am looking at says it will run for 12 hours on 10-15 gallons. Its expensive but the alternative is spending a whole lot of money on the line. The meter is about a mile from the camp so I don't know what I would be looking at to run a mile of line through the marsh.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:25 pm to wildeaux
Unless ya camp is a mansion 30K should be plenty. I strongly recommend a cumins onan set.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:32 pm to wildeaux
So thats what $200-300 a weekend in diesel? I have no idea how much it costs to run a line, but surely it can't be THAT much?
ETA - im curious to know how much a 1 mile elec line costs (above or below ground)....im sure someone here knows.
ETA - im curious to know how much a 1 mile elec line costs (above or below ground)....im sure someone here knows.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:32 pm to wildeaux
I have no idea but I wish my marsh camp had central air
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:36 pm to wildeaux
quote:
Every weekend. The guy who owns the generator I am looking at says it will run for 12 hours on 10-15 gallons. Its expensive but the alternative is spending a whole lot of money on the line. The meter is about a mile from the camp so I don't know what I would be looking at to run a mile of line through the marsh.
I would get estimates to repair that line before moving to the generator...
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:42 pm to SportTiger1
It was 40 dollars a foot to bore a conduit to the meter not including the cost of the wire. The distance from the camp to the meter is right at a mile which is 5280 feet. This would be over 20,000.00 just for the bore.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:52 pm to wildeaux
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All electric.
30kw ain't enough
Range-------50amps
AC----------40amps(min could be up to 60)
Dryer-------30amps
Water Heater--30amps
Microwave---15amps
Fridge------8-10 amps
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:56 pm to wildeaux
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The meter is about a mile from the camp so I don't know what I would be looking at to run a mile of line through the marsh.
Holy shite. Its run like that now? That's one hell of a haul from meter to panel
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:56 pm to Barneyrb
Yes, for start up Amps, but once it run/on the amps will drop to about a 1/4 of that.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:57 pm to Barneyrb
Anybody know a company that does powerline installation repairs?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:58 pm to wildeaux
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It was 40 dollars a foot to bore a conduit to the meter not including the cost of the wire.
You are getting fricked. Shouldn't be any more than 1/2 of that for a 4" conduit.
Email me at
I can put you in touch with some people that will give you a real world price.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:07 pm to wildeaux
A 30kw northern lights puts out 80 amps per leg. Giving you 160 amps feeding the panel a home service is 200 amps. You should be fine. I have a 20kw diesel at my home and can run my 5 ton AC unit along with my electric oven, and my dishwasher and electric dryer. Unless you are load testing odds are you won't have everything on at one time.
ETA: a generator in that size range will burn approx one gallon an hour.
ETA: a generator in that size range will burn approx one gallon an hour.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:15 pm to bayoudude
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A 30kw northern lights puts out 80 amps per leg. Giving you 160 amps feeding the panel a home service is 200 amps
Lol, it don't work that way unless things have changed since I was in engineering school. 30,000 watts divided by 240 volts is 125amps. 80amps per leg is 80amps at 240volts
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:17 pm to Barneyrb
The LSU engineer versus the Arkansas Engineer. I feel like its thanksgiving day of generators.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 4:19 pm to wildeaux
What size is the main breaker on you panel? That should give you the target for you generator. 150 Amp main, 240 volt is 36KW. 200 amp is 48 KW.
I would get a few prices for running the new service feed from the utility company.
I would get a few prices for running the new service feed from the utility company.
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