- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Gating canals in houma area
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:15 pm to Barf
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:15 pm to Barf
That's exactly what gets me about the whole canal issue. The canals changed the water flow through the whole area. This caused some natural waterways to silt up. Then not to mention some canals were dredged through some natural waterways. The whole issue makes it hard to just leave the marina in some areas without crossing some cannal or another.
Now my biggest issue is the laws on the books effect on natural waterways and lakes along the coast and the privatization of such. I guess that's a whole other can of worms.
Now my biggest issue is the laws on the books effect on natural waterways and lakes along the coast and the privatization of such. I guess that's a whole other can of worms.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:43 pm to Barf
quote:What are you confused about?
Wait. What?
quote:Great, sue them.
If you dig a canal through your private property, and it causes massive erosion problems to the public property surrounding it, you're responsible.
quote:Great, sue them.
One of the biggest issues besides erosion is the silting in of once public navigable in 1812 waterways caused by these private canals.
quote:No, it's not at all.
You can not destroy public right of way in an effort to construct your own private canal. That is a major part of this debate.
quote:It's because you are either dumb as a fricking rock or intellectually dishonest.
. I don't get your flippant dismissal of that issue.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:44 pm to Bass_Man
quote:Where has this happened?
Now my biggest issue is the laws on the books effect on natural waterways and lakes along the coast and the privatization of such.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:52 pm to joebuck
There are a myriad of topics at work here, not just a land locked canal outside of a tidal estuary. This topic is not static and appears to have great interest based on the fact this one thread is three days old and counting.
Agree – A canal dug in Louisiana after 1812 in a non-tidal estuary on private property is without question a private canal. I’ve not said anything to the contrary, but I also never clearly defined that.
What gets fuzzy is that same type canal dug in a heavily eroded tidal estuary such as the mash in the greater Houma area, the original area in question. Said marsh has eroded to the point where the canal is nearly indistinguishable from the natural bayou it intersects or the shallow ponds that have been created around it.
There are spits of islands and ridges on both sides of the natural bayou that make up the mostly washed away marsh and old canal, that entire area for a mile or more on either side of the natural bayou is under ownership of a private entity and holds water 24/7/365 in sufficient quantities to float a large bay boat, there are old posted signs, a piling or two here or there and an old bulk head that was used to block the canal, but you can barely get around it.
The above describes the scenario played out in the marshes of Louisiana south of I-10 (like Houma) to the tune of millions of acres. What is the angst of many, is that by the letter of the law, in part by Act 998 of the 1992 regular session, the millions of acres I just described are off limits to the general public. Gate, no gate, posted sign, no posted sign, you are a trespasser if you get outside that one natural bayou even if by accident. It’s creating a potentially serious controversy not really seen in other states or at least on this scale.
I don’t believe the entirety of the topic is just a canal in a random place in Louisiana, to zero in on that one piece of it potentially means ignoring the other pieces at work here possibly over simplifying it to get to a predetermined opinion.
Or maybe some of us are over complicating the matter, I’m not sure of that based on the replies in the now 10 page 3 day old topic. There has to be a happy middle ground out there for the use of the tidal marshes, but gating canals, boycotting diversions or restoration efforts, ignoring out of state rulings, and generally accepting the status quo as the way it will always be IS NOT the answer.
What is the answer, I don’t know…. It will likely be a middle ground.
Agree – A canal dug in Louisiana after 1812 in a non-tidal estuary on private property is without question a private canal. I’ve not said anything to the contrary, but I also never clearly defined that.
What gets fuzzy is that same type canal dug in a heavily eroded tidal estuary such as the mash in the greater Houma area, the original area in question. Said marsh has eroded to the point where the canal is nearly indistinguishable from the natural bayou it intersects or the shallow ponds that have been created around it.
There are spits of islands and ridges on both sides of the natural bayou that make up the mostly washed away marsh and old canal, that entire area for a mile or more on either side of the natural bayou is under ownership of a private entity and holds water 24/7/365 in sufficient quantities to float a large bay boat, there are old posted signs, a piling or two here or there and an old bulk head that was used to block the canal, but you can barely get around it.
The above describes the scenario played out in the marshes of Louisiana south of I-10 (like Houma) to the tune of millions of acres. What is the angst of many, is that by the letter of the law, in part by Act 998 of the 1992 regular session, the millions of acres I just described are off limits to the general public. Gate, no gate, posted sign, no posted sign, you are a trespasser if you get outside that one natural bayou even if by accident. It’s creating a potentially serious controversy not really seen in other states or at least on this scale.
I don’t believe the entirety of the topic is just a canal in a random place in Louisiana, to zero in on that one piece of it potentially means ignoring the other pieces at work here possibly over simplifying it to get to a predetermined opinion.
Or maybe some of us are over complicating the matter, I’m not sure of that based on the replies in the now 10 page 3 day old topic. There has to be a happy middle ground out there for the use of the tidal marshes, but gating canals, boycotting diversions or restoration efforts, ignoring out of state rulings, and generally accepting the status quo as the way it will always be IS NOT the answer.
What is the answer, I don’t know…. It will likely be a middle ground.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:57 pm to Dock Holiday
quote:That's neither fizzy nor fuzzy.
What gets fizzy is that same type canal dug in a heavily eroded tidal estuary such as the mash in the greater Houma area, the original area in question. Said marsh has eroded to the point where the canal is nearly indistinguishable from the natural bayou it intersects or the shallow ponds that have been created around it.
quote:It doesn't matter what you believe. Start a thread on it. It will get discussed.
I don’t believe the entirety of the topic is just a canal in a random place in Louisiana, to zero in on that one piece of it potentially means ignoring the other pieces at work here possibly over simplifying it to get to a predetermined opinion.
quote:You think?
Or maybe some of us are over complicating the matter,
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:02 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
That's neither fizzy nor fuzzy.
Changed
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:04 pm to AlxTgr
I would have been thoroughly diappointed in you and in myself if you agreed with that entire post.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:05 pm to AlxTgr
There are a tone of pretty sizable natural waterways that are claimed by land owners. If you just go look at the state land gis there are a ton of them.
Then there are places like lake Theriot that is claimed by the state and adjacent land owners. The land owner gates it off to restrict access. They have parts of bayou copasaw and penchant the are claimed by landowners. There's a tone of examples just about all the crap that was marsh east of LA1 south of Leeville. It's pretty much a bay now it's privately owned.
Then there are places like lake Theriot that is claimed by the state and adjacent land owners. The land owner gates it off to restrict access. They have parts of bayou copasaw and penchant the are claimed by landowners. There's a tone of examples just about all the crap that was marsh east of LA1 south of Leeville. It's pretty much a bay now it's privately owned.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:07 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Great, sue them.
Wouldn't that responsibility fall on the state?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:10 pm to CootDisCootDat
quote:
Word on the street is they're driving piles right now at the mouth of the Bob's Slip Canal so you won't be able to get into the Barge Canal anymore..
you shut your mouth Good god that would suck for us as we use the canals so we don't have to run as far in the intracoastal.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:13 pm to Barf
quote:Probably, but that's your strawman, not mine
Great, sue them.
Wouldn't that responsibility fall on the state?
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:53 pm to bayoudude
I heard this morning that they are driving pilings near 70 mile but its to moor barges for some sort of pipe extraction. Also, they thought about gating off the Antil Canal to OG, but because of Williams and all the leases, they threw out that idea.
Pretty sure everyones jimmies are rustled because of the Lake Verret gate thing that happened. Troy Landry gated off, blah, blah...so on and so fourth.....Bayou Black is now closed.
The Cenac that owns property around Miners Canal isnt even the same Cenac that blocked off Company Canal in Gheens...
Looka all the rumors, surrounding us everyday.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:08 pm to CootDisCootDat
quote:
Antil Canal
I was fishing a tournament last weekend and we idled past a fellow fun fishing. He asked if we'd been back there. Told him no and he informed us he had heard a owner put a gate somewhere towards the back. Said he would have it closed during duck season but would open it again once the season was over. Don't know if it's true or not, just what we were told
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:20 pm to Dock Holiday
why are you citing all that foreign jurisprudence? The laws and jurisprudence of Michigan and elsewhere have no bearing on how we handle our bidness here in the Gret Stet.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:24 pm to Mung
That's his point. He says our laws lack common sense like the other states.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:29 pm to Mung
Because south Louisiana is two shades away from being a banna republic. lol
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:42 pm to Mung
quote:
why are you citing all that foreign jurisprudence
Why am I still following this thread? I had to google jurisprudence.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:43 pm to deaconjones35
quote:Yes, a question you really should answer.
Why am I still following this thread?
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News