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Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:45 am to
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:45 am to
Cilantro doesn't live very long. Once they start to flower that's it.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48938 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:53 am to
I planted some Bell Peppers, Tomato, Cucumber, and Jalapeno last week. I noticed a slight yellowing on the peppers yesterday. What fertilizer to yall recommend? Its a raised garden if that matters
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14766 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:01 am to
How cold tolerant are cucumbers? I know they prefer warm weather. Apparently we will have a couple nights of 40 something degree weather this week and I’m wondering if I should cover them. I already planted a few that were outgrowing the seed cup. I know tomatoes are usually good as long as we don’t get a frost.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26448 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:27 am to
They'll be fine.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14766 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 9:30 am to
Well, I have a crap load of backups. So I’m gonna let em ride.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26448 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:25 am to
If it gets anywhere in the 30s we could be in trouble
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 3/5/18 at 10:37 am to
I’ve got some clear plastic laying around. I may cover them anyways. I don’t like setbacks.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5831 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:24 pm to

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I just finished 2 yellow squash, 2 cherry tomato, and 3 creole tomato in my 4x8 raised bed


That's 32 square feet. I planted 48 big beef tomatoes in 18 square feet.


Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26448 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

planted 48 big beef tomatoes in 18 square feet. 



Seriously? I plant about 6-8 in a 4x8 bed depending on the variety.
This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12166 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:12 pm to
Yeah that's way too many plants per sqf
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20440 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:23 pm to
quote:


That's 32 square feet. I planted 48 big beef tomatoes in 18 square feet.


Have you done this before? I've seen 4 tomato plants take over a 4x8 easily. 6-8 would be adequate I'd think, how the hell are you getting 48?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 2:45 pm to
I did 3 rows of tomatoes in a 4x12 bed last year and it was too much. I put them like 18 inches or so apart and several got sick and died halfway through season.

This year I’m just doing 2 rows and will see how I do.

I also did not do cages, but used a string hanging from the top that I wrapped around the stalk as it grew. I’m bever doing cages again.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5831 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:07 pm to
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Seriously? I plant about 6-8 in a 4x8 bed depending on the variety


I've been crowding tomatoes into 18" pots for years and keeping a spread sheet on production. I get significantly better yields per pot when I put in 4 plants vs. 1, 2, or 3. A single plant will produce more tomatoes per plant, but 4 plants produce more tomatoes per pot.

In a good year I'll average 10 tomatoes per plant which is 40 tomatoes per 18" pot (1.5 sq ft). That's over 400 tomatoes from 18 sq ft.

They're beside the house where I can water them easily but also where they get less than 5 hrs of sunlight. This is so much easier than using my tractor, discs, hillers, dragging hoses, etc. I'm pretty lazy in my old age.

Plants above 6' tall get topped. I try to have all harvested before July.



This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26448 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:07 pm to
I do 2 rows as well with 3 in each row totaling 6 plants. I have one with 8, but they're some heirlooms that I prune really well.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14766 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 3:18 pm to
Geez. You don’t have any problems with fungus? Being that crowded, I’d imagine you also have to water and fertilize regularly. I do 3 feet spacing with mine and they still end up mixing it up with each other. And I prune pretty good.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80770 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

That's 32 square feet. I planted 48 big beef tomatoes in 18 square feet.

WTF how? I had 10 creoles last year in the 4x8 bed and they were growing all over each other and I had a hard time seeing the fruit in the middle plants
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

but used a string hanging from the top that I wrapped around the stalk as it grew. I’m bever doing cages again.
I don't understand how you did this. The end of the string was at the base of the plant?
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5831 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 7:17 pm to
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WTF how?


I just do it. My method has been an evolution of trial and error vs plants/pot, pot location, and plant variety. Of course the pots average 2 ft spacing so the total area 12 pots take up is 8.5 X 12 ft, but the soil area is only 18 sq ft. Walking into the middle of that area is like walking into a jungle, but the smell is awesome. Mid May forward I water twice per day and add liquid fert (super bloom) every 2 - 3 weeks. I'll pick 30 tomatoes / day at the peak.

Main thing for me is to get them over with before it gets too hot (stink bugs, yuk). I've had some fungus problems but I just clip the affected limbs and toss. Hasn't really been a big issue.



This post was edited on 3/5/18 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 3/5/18 at 8:22 pm to
Thanks for info
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:28 am to
I have 5 3'x 4' raised boxes planted with 20 red and gold potatoes. 4 plants per box. One box with basil, curly parsley, oregano, German Thyme, and a cherry pepper. The parsley and oregano over wintered in the box and seem to be nearly indestructible. I planted my potatoes in January and all the plants are about 16" tall now. In 22" pots I planted 1 celebrity, 2 creole, 1 super sweet 100 cherry, 1 gold pear, 1 sun gold, and a patio cherry tomato. I planted 2 dragon cayenne, 2 jalapeno, 4 more cherry peppers in deck boxes on the deck rails last week. Everything is doing well so far. All the pots are on wheels in case they need to go into the shed if it gets too cold. I wish I could grow squash but the squash borers are just too thick in my area. All are on automatic drip systems. There are about a dozen cherry tomatoes ripening on the patio bush right now.

A note about planting potatoes. Make sure the potato is a variety that will continue to produce tubers as you add dirt. My Yukon Golds only produce at one level. I have only gotten maybe two levels from my Red Lasodas. Both are in boxes that are only 12" deep this year.
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