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re: Garden Updates
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:43 am to Chuker
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:43 am to Chuker
I'll elaborate on this in case you or anybody else is interested. This is the photo I posted in the other thread:
Plants had been out for three weeks and produced probably 10-15 cucumbers between 6 plants when whatever that is got ahold of them. The leaves started wilting and dying off heavily. At first I thought it was just aphids, because I had that problem too. Took care of those with neem oil, but the plants still looked like shite.
I mixed hydrogen peroxide and water at a rate of 12tbsp per gallon, or 1.5tbsp per 16 ounces of water. I sprayed the undersides of the leaves with a hose, then sprayed the bottoms and tops of the leaves with peroxide mixture. The next day, I watered with a water soluble fertilizer. On the third day, I sprayed them with the peroxide mixture again. I waited another day, watered, and then on day 5 I sprayed them with liquid copper.
I know that seems like a lot, but because of another story they were the only cucumber plants I had for the fall, and they were dying, so I didn't really have anything to lose. I waited about a week and the leaves looked like shite still, but the fungus was gone and the plants didn't seem to be dying. After about a week, the leaves had some pretty significant dead patches on them from where I assume the fungus had taken hold. Some were worse than others, so I pruned off the really bad ones.
Now, I'm about 2 weeks from my initial peroxide spraying, and the plants are really pushing out new green growth and flowering, even after pruning more than half of the leaves off. Another week will really tell, but so far I'm encouraged by the experiment. If I did it again, I'd probably drop down to like 8tbsp of peroxide per gallon of water, or 1tbsp per 16 ounces.
I should've taken some photos, but just an FYI for anybody who has an issue with this. I know next to nothing about gardening but I found some info online and gave it a shot. I also used a mild peroxide treatment on some bacterial spot on my cherry tomato plant back in August and it worked very well. Same general process as above but with 8tbsp/gallon. After about a week, the leaves that had bacterial spot just had holes left where the spots were. Now, the plant is doing great and probably has 50 tomatoes on it.
Plants had been out for three weeks and produced probably 10-15 cucumbers between 6 plants when whatever that is got ahold of them. The leaves started wilting and dying off heavily. At first I thought it was just aphids, because I had that problem too. Took care of those with neem oil, but the plants still looked like shite.
I mixed hydrogen peroxide and water at a rate of 12tbsp per gallon, or 1.5tbsp per 16 ounces of water. I sprayed the undersides of the leaves with a hose, then sprayed the bottoms and tops of the leaves with peroxide mixture. The next day, I watered with a water soluble fertilizer. On the third day, I sprayed them with the peroxide mixture again. I waited another day, watered, and then on day 5 I sprayed them with liquid copper.
I know that seems like a lot, but because of another story they were the only cucumber plants I had for the fall, and they were dying, so I didn't really have anything to lose. I waited about a week and the leaves looked like shite still, but the fungus was gone and the plants didn't seem to be dying. After about a week, the leaves had some pretty significant dead patches on them from where I assume the fungus had taken hold. Some were worse than others, so I pruned off the really bad ones.
Now, I'm about 2 weeks from my initial peroxide spraying, and the plants are really pushing out new green growth and flowering, even after pruning more than half of the leaves off. Another week will really tell, but so far I'm encouraged by the experiment. If I did it again, I'd probably drop down to like 8tbsp of peroxide per gallon of water, or 1tbsp per 16 ounces.
I should've taken some photos, but just an FYI for anybody who has an issue with this. I know next to nothing about gardening but I found some info online and gave it a shot. I also used a mild peroxide treatment on some bacterial spot on my cherry tomato plant back in August and it worked very well. Same general process as above but with 8tbsp/gallon. After about a week, the leaves that had bacterial spot just had holes left where the spots were. Now, the plant is doing great and probably has 50 tomatoes on it.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 10:33 am
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:45 am to bluemoons
that picture looks exactly like what got a hold of some of my tomato plants and pepper plants
it wasnt bugs but some type of fungus
i could not get rid of the fungus before it killed the plant
what was crazy is that my plant kept getting bigger but every leaf had the blight look and no flowers were producing
it wasnt bugs but some type of fungus
i could not get rid of the fungus before it killed the plant
what was crazy is that my plant kept getting bigger but every leaf had the blight look and no flowers were producing
Posted on 9/25/18 at 9:59 am to HailToTheChiz
That's actually good to hear because I've been completely unable to figure out what it is. I've sent that photo to a bunch of people who know a lot about plant diseases, because the same thing got my cucumber plants back in the spring. I may bring that photo to LSU Ag on the northshore and see if they can diagnose it.
Either way, give the peroxide mix a try if it gets your plants again. It's still early and I guess it could come back/my plants could die, but I'll continue following up on the progress.
I'll go ahead and post this too because it's funny and the reason why I only have those Sweet Success plants now. So I ordered these Ukrainian self-pollinating pickling cucumbers that I found on this guy's youtube channel. It took the seed pack over a month to come in, and I was pretty stoked because I love pickles and supposedly these cucumbers produce like crazy. I started the seeds along with the Sweet Success seeds. After a few weeks, I noticed the leaves looked kinda different, but I just figured it was because they were different varieties. I planted both out, but planted 10 pickling cucumber plants to 6 SS plants. At this point, the leaves looked very different, but I don't really know enough to ID plants like that. The SS plants started producing almost immediately. The pickling plants were flowering, but weren't producing female flowers. I thought this was even weirder, because supposedly these were super prolific and only produced female flowers.
After like three weeks, the plant produced its first fruit, and it was this little furry grape-looking thing. Didn't look like any cucumber I'd ever seen, but it's from Ukraine so who knows
. Anyway, it grows for a bit and turns into a furry softball sized fruit. At this point, I'm like there is absolutely no way this is a cucumber, and definitely not a pickling cucumber. Start googling photos of "small furry fruit balls" (you can imagine what came up), and I'm pretty sure I planted 10 cantaloupe plants . I guess they just mis-labeled the seed packet.
Either way, give the peroxide mix a try if it gets your plants again. It's still early and I guess it could come back/my plants could die, but I'll continue following up on the progress.
I'll go ahead and post this too because it's funny and the reason why I only have those Sweet Success plants now. So I ordered these Ukrainian self-pollinating pickling cucumbers that I found on this guy's youtube channel. It took the seed pack over a month to come in, and I was pretty stoked because I love pickles and supposedly these cucumbers produce like crazy. I started the seeds along with the Sweet Success seeds. After a few weeks, I noticed the leaves looked kinda different, but I just figured it was because they were different varieties. I planted both out, but planted 10 pickling cucumber plants to 6 SS plants. At this point, the leaves looked very different, but I don't really know enough to ID plants like that. The SS plants started producing almost immediately. The pickling plants were flowering, but weren't producing female flowers. I thought this was even weirder, because supposedly these were super prolific and only produced female flowers.
After like three weeks, the plant produced its first fruit, and it was this little furry grape-looking thing. Didn't look like any cucumber I'd ever seen, but it's from Ukraine so who knows
. Anyway, it grows for a bit and turns into a furry softball sized fruit. At this point, I'm like there is absolutely no way this is a cucumber, and definitely not a pickling cucumber. Start googling photos of "small furry fruit balls" (you can imagine what came up), and I'm pretty sure I planted 10 cantaloupe plants . I guess they just mis-labeled the seed packet.This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 9:59 am
Posted on 9/25/18 at 10:26 am to bluemoons
Posted on 9/25/18 at 4:29 pm to bluemoons
That’s pretty funny. I would email Dan Gill about the cucumber leaf issue. He should know exactly what it is. dgill@agcenter.lsu.edu
Posted on 9/28/18 at 3:29 pm to lsuson
I may do that. So update. Cucumbers are putting out a lot of new growth. The fungus looks like it tried to come back on a couple of the vines themselves (not leaves), but I sprayed with a peroxide dose today. You can see the difference between the old leaves and the new growth:
Here are some photos of the rest of the garden:
maters
fence planter with herbs, mohawks, shishito, and red robin maters:
main raised bed with brocc, cauliflower, kale, lettuce, peppers, etc.
ETA: Here is my mystery fruit that I believed was cantaloupe. If someone could tell me what this is, it would be greatly appreciated.
Here are some photos of the rest of the garden:
maters
fence planter with herbs, mohawks, shishito, and red robin maters:
main raised bed with brocc, cauliflower, kale, lettuce, peppers, etc.
ETA: Here is my mystery fruit that I believed was cantaloupe. If someone could tell me what this is, it would be greatly appreciated
. This post was edited on 9/28/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 9/28/18 at 4:36 pm to bluemoons
I built small box beds like yours with cedar fence boards. Make sure you rip off the flowers on your basil plants when they sprout. I believe that is amethyst basil. GF didn't like that one at all. She loves the regular sweet basil though. I have no clue what type of melon it is, but I bet it will be good!
Posted on 9/28/18 at 5:39 pm to lsuson
Anyone have a recommendation fot a herbicide to use on grass that won't kill my carrots, greens, or broccoli? Would roundup be alright with some of the vegetables emerging?
We've had quite a bit of rain since I planted the garden, and it looks like grass got in and is popping up all over. Lots of green.
We've had quite a bit of rain since I planted the garden, and it looks like grass got in and is popping up all over. Lots of green.
Posted on 9/28/18 at 6:04 pm to Cowboyfan89
I wouldn't use roundup. Maybe try this product. Looks safe. I would just try and avoid spraying directly on your veggie plants. LINK
Posted on 10/1/18 at 6:02 pm to lsuson
Anyone got any good ideas to keep squirrels off my broccoli and cauliflower? They have eaten 3 plants in the last 1.5 hrs. I put cayenne pepper all over the place hope that helps. I've got nothing to lose they have eaten at least one leaf off each plant.
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 10/1/18 at 6:13 pm to Milescb28
quote:
Anyone got any good ideas to keep squirrels of my broccoli and cauliflower?
Pellet gun works wonders and the benefit is a pot of squirrel stew.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:00 pm to gumbo2176
Get you a lawn chair, ice chest full of cold beer, pellet or air rifle and set up far enough away from the garden, but close enough to be deadly and set up during feeding times. Then go cook some rice!!!
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:36 pm to bluemoons
I've seen something like this on a pepper plants before that had aphids. It's probably some sort of blight that came in after the aphids damaged the plant.
Aphids suck the sap out, so there's going to be a lang time for the plant to recover.
Aphids suck the sap out, so there's going to be a lang time for the plant to recover.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:58 pm to gumbo2176
quote:
Pellet gun works wonders and the benefit is a pot of squirrel stew.
I've killed about 25 the last 3 weeks with my pellet gun. But I am vegetarian so I just throw them in the trash.
Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:38 pm to Zappas Stache
quote:
I've killed about 25 the last 3 weeks with my pellet gun. But I am vegetarian so I just throw them in the trash.
So, you're saying you don't know ANYBODY who would eat squirrels??????
25 of them in 3 weeks would make a great big pot of game stew.
Posted on 10/2/18 at 11:45 am to Zappas Stache
Damn son. Post on OB when you get some. I’m sure someone would love to take them of your hands and make a gumbo
Posted on 10/2/18 at 12:30 pm to gumbo2176
quote:
So, you're saying you don't know ANYBODY who would eat squirrels??????
I'm in Dallas. Nobody eats squirrels that I know....and I've offered them to my neighbor who hunts and fishes but he turned his nose up.
Posted on 10/18/18 at 11:34 am to Zappas Stache
Bluemoons I think my cucumber plants have the same thing you were going through, but mine are beyond repair. 4/6 plants are toast and the last two are hanging on my a thread. I ripped the dying plants out the ground and replanted new seeds one more time in hopes of a few more cuces. The other two have 6 cuces growing but that’s it. Anyone else have brown leaves and looks like mold growing on their cuce plant leaves?
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:10 pm to lsuson
The lower leaves on my spring crop developed something like that as the plants got taller. The tops were still healthy and producing so I just assumed it was the less productive parts of the plant aging. They stopped producing due to the heat and I pulled them before it really affected anything.
My cucumbers now are doing well but the lower leaves are a bit off color. I assumed it was just age like last time until I saw yall's posts. Either way like you said with cucumbers its usually better to just plant seed and have a new plant in a month rather than try to fix the damage.
ETA: nothing that looked like the mold above on leaves, just lightening of the color and gradually turning yellow and brittle with some holes eaten out. All growth less than a month old is bright green and blooming so I just chock it up to cucumbers living fast and dying young.
My cucumbers now are doing well but the lower leaves are a bit off color. I assumed it was just age like last time until I saw yall's posts. Either way like you said with cucumbers its usually better to just plant seed and have a new plant in a month rather than try to fix the damage.
ETA: nothing that looked like the mold above on leaves, just lightening of the color and gradually turning yellow and brittle with some holes eaten out. All growth less than a month old is bright green and blooming so I just chock it up to cucumbers living fast and dying young.
This post was edited on 10/18/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 10/18/18 at 12:14 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Is it too late to plant now?
If not, what could I get going?
My jalapenos from spring are going strong
If not, what could I get going?
My jalapenos from spring are going strong
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