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re: Fruit bearing tree for deer
Posted on 9/10/10 at 10:19 pm to ItTakesAThief
Posted on 9/10/10 at 10:19 pm to ItTakesAThief
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permission.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 10:27 pm to windriver
Crab-apple is another fruit deer love.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 11:27 pm to TIGER2
American persiman, crab apple, (any apple for that matter), pears (except bradford), peaches (will drop before season), Honey locust, mesquite, plums, paw paw, passion fruit vine, muscidine grapes,
we have all on our lease except the plums, paw paw, and crab apples.
Find a natural stand, cut bakc the competition and fertilize in the spring to increase the fruit production.
Due to draught problems and death to planted trees recurrently, we will be trying to graft bartlett pear to the natural already rooted bradford pears we have this coming spring.
we have all on our lease except the plums, paw paw, and crab apples.
Find a natural stand, cut bakc the competition and fertilize in the spring to increase the fruit production.
Due to draught problems and death to planted trees recurrently, we will be trying to graft bartlett pear to the natural already rooted bradford pears we have this coming spring.
Posted on 9/10/10 at 11:42 pm to Bleeding purple
Hope they're well protected because Bradford Pear is kindling in any kind of wind.
And yeah, persimmon. Best thing ever. Even better than apples. They love that shite.
And yeah, persimmon. Best thing ever. Even better than apples. They love that shite.
Posted on 9/11/10 at 12:23 am to faxis
Unfortunately, there was a nursey here that went out of business years ago and left a bunch of ornamental bradfords to themselves. The have spread all over the local area and our entire town smells like stale vagina in the spring.
Fortunately since the trees that are here grew from seed and developed deep roots and bush like characteristics, they are relatively short and protected from the wind.
*HINT* for those persons that are not sure if there are native american persimmons around, look for small piles of deer and hog feces or even cow and coyote. The seeds are often not dissolved in the gut and are excreted whole to grow a new tree complete with a little bit of fertilizer. You can buy the seed on ebay and in 2 years and you will have fruit bearing trees as long as you fertilize them. Or you can simply find a tree and pick up a bunch of the dropped fruit and bury those in starter pots.
Fortunately since the trees that are here grew from seed and developed deep roots and bush like characteristics, they are relatively short and protected from the wind.
*HINT* for those persons that are not sure if there are native american persimmons around, look for small piles of deer and hog feces or even cow and coyote. The seeds are often not dissolved in the gut and are excreted whole to grow a new tree complete with a little bit of fertilizer. You can buy the seed on ebay and in 2 years and you will have fruit bearing trees as long as you fertilize them. Or you can simply find a tree and pick up a bunch of the dropped fruit and bury those in starter pots.
Posted on 9/11/10 at 1:06 am to JasonL79
Muscadines are similar to grapes and attract deer but the OP is probably talking about persimmon trees. They are similar to orange trees and deer love them.
Posted on 9/11/10 at 6:55 am to hammer5365
Trifolieta (sp)
These trees grow wild in lots of areas around Louisiana and Southwest Mississippi and the deer love them. They are like an orange tree but will very small sour fruit. I used to Bow hunt around several of these and you could almost time the deer to show up right at daylight.
Posted on 9/13/10 at 8:32 pm to lob1284
I thought Crab Apple was the correct answer? Not sure about the climate that they thrive in but in middle AL they grow like crazy when planted and the deer there seem to love them!
Posted on 9/13/10 at 9:21 pm to lob1284
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I think persimon was the name of the tree. he said he paid like 100 dollars for one that had a little size to it.
be careful buying persimmon trees. native persimmons are diecious, meaning there are male and female trees. If you get a male, you get no fruit.
the good thing about them is that every mammal in Louisiana will eat one, and crap out seeds, and up will come more trees, so finding little ones are no problem. You can usually start seeing flowers and fruit after 4-5 years, then you can cut back ones that don't fruit.
Posted on 9/13/10 at 10:00 pm to LoneStarTiger
Here is a site I have found very useful in deciding what plants to nurture, eradicate, and introduce.
Texas parks and wildlife department plants database
The list is searchable on many levels including basic type of plant, the species that desire to use the plant, environment it will grow in, the water, sunlight, and nutrient needs, and livestock tolerance.
While makeing decisions on wildlife management please be aware that the introduction of non endemic species is often illegal and disasterous and that the removal of non endimic species is often benifical. In fact many states will assist landowners either financially and/or physicially in removal of pest species. Some will assist landowners with habitat improvement like prescribed burns, selective timbering, water management, and planting of certain grasses, shrubs, and trees.
All worth looking into. I learned alot about what deer will eat and what they prefer.
Texas parks and wildlife department plants database
The list is searchable on many levels including basic type of plant, the species that desire to use the plant, environment it will grow in, the water, sunlight, and nutrient needs, and livestock tolerance.
While makeing decisions on wildlife management please be aware that the introduction of non endemic species is often illegal and disasterous and that the removal of non endimic species is often benifical. In fact many states will assist landowners either financially and/or physicially in removal of pest species. Some will assist landowners with habitat improvement like prescribed burns, selective timbering, water management, and planting of certain grasses, shrubs, and trees.
All worth looking into. I learned alot about what deer will eat and what they prefer.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 7:50 am to Bleeding purple
The persimons drop early, most of the fruit will be gone before bow season starts.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 10:16 am to wickowick
Not here brother, the persimmons drop in mid to late october and in areas with few coons and opposums (helps to trap and shoot a few in off season) the ones high on the tree will still be there late into Nov.
Bow season starts Oct 2nd here.
Our muscidine are dropping right now though.
Bow season starts Oct 2nd here.
Our muscidine are dropping right now though.
This post was edited on 9/14/10 at 10:24 am
Posted on 9/14/10 at 11:23 am to lob1284
It's not easy to get deer to eat a new food source that isn't indigenous to your woods.
You'd have better success finding the preferred food sources in your woods then liming/fertilizing those plants to increase mass/quality.
I've hunted deer over improved natural browse for years and watch them walk pass acres of food to get to the improved stuff... especially acorns from improved oak trees. They get sweet enough to eat like candy.
You'd have better success finding the preferred food sources in your woods then liming/fertilizing those plants to increase mass/quality.
I've hunted deer over improved natural browse for years and watch them walk pass acres of food to get to the improved stuff... especially acorns from improved oak trees. They get sweet enough to eat like candy.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 12:51 pm to lob1284
Persimmon trees are great for hunting around. The deer love them. I have about 10 of them in pots behind my house. Once they get a little bigger I'm going to plant them in my food plots.
Posted on 9/14/10 at 1:00 pm to Slickback
Don't they take 7-8 years to bear?
Posted on 9/14/10 at 9:32 pm to Bleeding purple
Our muscidine's have all dropped by September 1st here in Coryell county. I guess I need to plant some persimmons trees.
Posted on 9/15/10 at 12:44 pm to Tigerpaw123
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I must be thinking of something else. It's about 8-12in long and about 2-3in wide. Any ideas?
a bag of dicks?
Posted on 9/15/10 at 12:53 pm to wickowick
Depends on location. Along the delta, East Carroll, Madison, Tensas... you can hunt em well into bow season.
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