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re: Fellow OB'ers, what can I do to stop getting delayed on background checks?

Posted on 12/11/15 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5600 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 7:27 pm to
I've been delayed quite a few times and I have a CCL and an FFL 03 so additional "paperwork" will probably not help your cause.

I did some slight digging and they said someone with a name or SSN close to mine is on the list so someone has to phisycally look up my info.

I was told I could apply for a unique personal identification number or a UPIN through the ATF but I never really looked into it as the delays never really affected me and were usually cleared up within an hour.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5895 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 7:32 pm to
Put your SSN.
Posted by cdaniel76
Ponchatoula
Member since Feb 2008
19768 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

I did some slight digging and they said


Who's "they"? Where do I begin if I want to do some digging, myself?
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56705 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:20 pm to
Get a CCW.
Posted by Nascar Fan
Columbia La.
Member since Jul 2011
18586 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

what can I do to stop getting delayed on background checks? by cdaniel76

I had the same problem & I just get the Mrs to buy my guns now
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5600 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

Who's "they"? Where do I begin if I want to do some digging, myself?


One of the folks I was buying from when I had a delay. They said they had another customer that was tired of getting delayed and that person was able to procure a UPIN.


ETA

From ar15.com
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This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 9:15 pm
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21346 posts
Posted on 12/11/15 at 9:56 pm to
If you have been arrested you will be flagged and delayed.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3863 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:13 am to
Do you have a TWIC card? I get delayed usually and have been told it's because I have one.
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
6989 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:23 am to
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Do you have a TWIC card?
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I've always heard this about the TWIC. I have a TWIC and recently purchased a pistol and my approval only took about 10 minutes.

Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61726 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:25 am to
Common misconception. Delays are caused by similar names, past charges, and quite possible the sales guy thinking you're a creeper.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19103 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:49 am to
I've had a few customers get delays even with the UPIN.

The CC permit is the way to go if in Louisiana.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37667 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:43 am to
That's not true. I bought a rifle from academy a year and a half or so ago and they put a 3 day hold on it. I bought another gun from a different sporting goods store a couple of weeks ago and I walked out with the gun in 30 minutes.

That may be true if you were arrested or convicted of a felony.
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:55 am to
It can also be how the FFL submits the 4473. I've been delayed at Academy on occasion but have also been granted proceeds. Never been delayed at Jims or my FFL. Both Jims and my FFL call in FWIW.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21171 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 10:49 am to
I just got through with the AStF training to sell guns where i work and I could have sworn it was 3/15/15 no background check required if you have a CC.
Posted by papasmurf1269
Hells Pass
Member since Apr 2005
21346 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 10:11 pm to
If you're arrested and convicted of a felony,you're not getting a gun period.
Posted by willeaux
Member since Jan 2006
2979 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 11:00 pm to
Alright, fine. But this is the last time I'm buying a gun for you.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67768 posts
Posted on 12/12/15 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

Common misconception


not quite. we did a study and almost all of our delays have TWICs. not a coincidence. 1/10 guys with TWICs get by, but it rarely happens

OP, 1. Stop being creepy 2. Apply for a UPIN. All you need is a NICS number (go pretend you're going to buy a gun and when you get delayed, tell the person to No Sale the transaction and ask them for a resolution card and the NICS number)
This post was edited on 12/12/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
6989 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:02 am to
quote:

1/10 guys with TWICs get by, but it rarely happens 


I must be a rarity. I bought a pistol at Academy a few weeks ago, and I had about a 10 minute wait, and I have a TWIC.

When I was filling out the paperwork, I mentioned to the clerk that I had a TWIC and I had heard that a TWIC can make for a long wait before approval. He said that he was told that having a TWIC causes the software to show that fingerprints are on file. But the initial software cannot tell the reason why the fingerprints are on file. So the software has to send the info to another software that determines why the fingerprints are on file. And that is where the delay starts.

I don't know if that is BS or not. But I actually have fingerprints on file with my TWIC and also with my hazardous materials endorsement on my CDL.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67768 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:07 am to
quote:

having a TWIC causes the software to show that fingerprints are on file. But the initial software cannot tell the reason why the fingerprints are on file. So the software has to send the info to another software that determines why the fingerprints are on file. And that is where the delay starts.


correct (mostly). examiner (actual person) usually has to come in and push it through to Proceed
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61726 posts
Posted on 12/13/15 at 7:39 am to
quote:

1/10 guys with TWICs get by, but it rarely happens


I guess me and my dad happen to be in that 1/10.

TWIC has absolutely nothing to do with a 4473 call in.

ETA: I see a post involving fingerprints for a TWIC. I never gave fingerprints when applying for or receiving my TWIC.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 7:41 am
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